Maybe not mentioned but all I see here is racism.Originally Posted by Delerium
Wherever you go, there you are
Maybe not mentioned but all I see here is racism.
If you love it, let it go. If it comes back to you, you've just high-sided!
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Moped rider
But is it a case of anger at a family that happen to be of a certain ethnicity o anger at a certain ethnicity and using what has happened as an excuse?
Hardcore Biker
I cant speak for everyone but if the family had been european I'd still be just as pissed off. That being said if the family was european I very much doubt we'd see as much of a media and political spotlight on it. "Big evil corporation picking on poor brown immigrants" makes much better headlines than "Power company doing its job cuts power to 4th generation kiwis".
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Just faidin away!
The principal and result is the same, they are both dead, they won't be back again.
Effective care was not given when it should have been.
If you can believe what was said on TV by the family members, it was not even attempted, I don't care what race, origins or creed, they had time to act and did nothing, now everyone else is to blame!
The public outcry was initiated by a self proclamed family member or there would have been none.
Suggest you follow your own advice. John.
Rest In Peace
as i've been away without net available,just logged on tonight,my humble opinion is why not go to pre pay power,pay as you go,simple.also in our local paper was a story about a lady with emphaseema and has similar machine,she has an oxygen cylinder as backup in case of power outage,also the air tubes which go into nasel passage,when they become disconnected or loose power go off with a loud bang,i know as when i was in icu and an old guy was next room to me his ventilater hose came off and he nearly(and me)shit ourslves from fright,my bet is this may have contributed to the cause of death,as well as a healthy diet of kfc,mcd,bk,seems the power co have given $10000 to family,nice gesture,i hope the mentioned fast food outlets enjoy the profits(joking),as for the polititians lambasting the power co and contractors,how many govt organisations have helped the family out with entitlements,working for families etc.
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Scotsman on a German
I cannot find any news reports on the results of the autopsy.
The coroner's findings should have been available some time yesterday afternoon. No mention has been made which suggests to me the findings leave Ms. Clark with egg on her face and that the cause of death was not related to the loss of electricity.
If someone can find a link to the results I would be really grateful - all I can find online is the same kneejerk reaction I have now come to expect from the New Zealand media.
In space, no one can smell your fart.
Wherever you go, there you are
Oh I am John and I am waiting for all of the facts while I respectfully refrain from jumping to conclusions and publicly bagging a grieving family.
If you love it, let it go. If it comes back to you, you've just high-sided!
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L-Plate Rider
cant help wondering why some one didnt take her to another family members house and plug her in just in case or go next door when she took a turn for the worse. I would force my family member to go.
Scotsman on a German
Once again we have a thread that is polarising opinion - shame there is only the usual choice to line up on the 'Racist' and 'Non-racist' camps,
I myself choose to align myself with the 'factist' camp - those concerned only with the facts.
There have been under publicised interviews with staff at the hospital - I think I read thatsenior members of staff have advised that the machine in question was not vital to sustain life.
Much of the outrage seems based on a life support system being denied.
Legislation will change (in the usual kneejerk reaction/we want more votes but we still want to tax the arse off you way) in that people with life support equipment will be registered with the power suppliers and will have an uninterupted power supply.
Folole Muliaga would still have perished under such legislation since, allegedly, her doctors did not believe she needed this equipment for survival and would therefore not have registered her under such a scheme.
I think the loss of any life is a tragedy but I fail to see what benefit there is for demonising the power supplier. Any punitive damages will not be paid by the shareholders of the power company - the payments will come directly out of the pockets of the paying customers - you and me.
My thoughts are with the family at this time - being the centre of media focus when their grief is so raw cannot be easy. I have little doubt that her sons are partly blaming themselves without assistance from comments such as we have seen in this thread.
In space, no one can smell your fart.
Wherever you go, there you are
I also fail to see the benefit of demonising an immigrant family as well.
If you love it, let it go. If it comes back to you, you've just high-sided!
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Moped rider
I find it frustrating that anybody that doesnt agree with the poor brown familes plight is accused of being racist. My closestfriend is rarotongan, but guess what... I still think excessive stupidity and laziness killed this woman and the power company should of told them to stick it when it came to compensation... just like they would of to me.
Somebody has died needlessly, nobody is denying that. But it wasnt the big bad power company dehumanizing its customers.
Just faidin away!
I didn't jump to conclusions, I saw and heard them speaking on public television, themselves, telling their own version of events.
It doesn't wash to just blame the power company for cutting off the power, it could have failed from a number of non related causes.
Still I have to agree with you that the truth will out fully eventually but will we ever hear it?
You accuse me of publicly bagging a grieving family and I would accept that if it was not for the fact that a family "representative" was the first to take it to the public arena, therefore inviting us all to have an opinion!
My opinion is contrary to the one that he hoped to portray and I believe he did that for political and emotional blackmail of another party that he could affix blame for whatever purpose and it looks like he has been successful so far.
I admit to being a bit testy about this issue tonight, mainly because it is raining, my back hurts, I could not go to the Brass monkey and every thing I turn on, TV, Radio, KB, is full of this damn story and I believe on the evidence produced so far,(by themselves) that the immediate family present at the time failed to give the victim adequate support.
They may not have been able to save her but in their own words they didn't even "try".
All they did was, sit around blaming the bloody power company! John.
Hardcore Biker
I apologise for not reading the previous 9 pages but ...
In my opinion no one should be on a life critical device totally dependent on the stability of the mains grid and the control of a private corporation. Thats stupid.
There should be a UPS system in place which automatically sends emergency signals to the local emergency services on power loss.
No one should be in the position that their lives can be taken away from them if a employee in a power company accidentally presses the wrong button. I don't know how hard it is for someone to accidentally disconnect you but in this digital age probably not hard at all.
Power company screwed up but we should not be handing them the responsibility of making life / death decisions. They are there to sell power. If you need guaranteed power delivery organise it.
I'm not sure the family did all they could but the system is broken.
Hardcore Biker
good shit.. who really gives a fuck about them.
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More than anything examples of the above outbursts distort the arguements of those who have something valid to say...and even perhaps what you are trying to put across.
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