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    Blah Guitarist needed

    Anyone play the guitar in Auckland?

    I am looking for somone to teach me how to play something (I can play a bit, know a dozen or so chords just after some help with this song). There is always somone better than yourself at everything in life, so I figure that makes for a heck of a lot of people that qualify to teach me!

    I will pay. ...and i'm 100% straight.


    Song attached. (pm me if you want to know the name/artist)

    Thanks in advance!
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    You know, maybe you could play music if you learned how to read music first? It's like trying to learn how to act Shakespeare without first learning how to read.

    Tabs are not in any sense a complete form of music notation. You can't hope to learn any form of musical technique when you don't have an understanding of what you're playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxesdaphat View Post
    You know, maybe you could play music if you learned how to read music first? It's like trying to learn how to act Shakespeare without first learning how to read.

    Tabs are not in any sense a complete form of music notation. You can't hope to learn any form of musical technique when you don't have an understanding of what you're playing.
    I can read tabs.... (sort of) ..damit hehe
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    What exactly are you wanting to learn? How to read tab? How to do the timing? Proper fingering? Proper finger technique?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxesdaphat View Post
    You know, maybe you could play music if you learned how to read music first? It's like trying to learn how to act Shakespeare without first learning how to read.

    Tabs are not in any sense a complete form of music notation. You can't hope to learn any form of musical technique when you don't have an understanding of what you're playing.

    You sound like a pianist.

    I've always found tabs and the music on a cd player to work fine. There's a number of techniques with guitar that are complex to notate with standard musical notation.

    Always best to do it by ear, I reckon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    You sound like a pianist.

    I've always found tabs and the music on a cd player to work fine. There's a number of techniques with guitar that are complex to notate with standard musical notation.

    Always best to do it by ear, I reckon.
    You sound like a dick yourself.

    The 'ears' only work if you have them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    You sound like a dick yourself.

    The 'ears' only work if you have them.
    LOL. The 'ears' work if they're all you got.

    I can't read music to save myself mate... only tab.

    Needs must...
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    Those without the ears, read.
    Trying to get this down at the moment. Hard yards.

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    Looks a bit challenging. I'd have to see it in tab though, unfortunately, to have any idea.

    My oldest son's doing piano, and I'm learning musical notation through his homework, but piano's so different you can't really apply it to guitar, I feel.

    I'm curious - is that notation for guitar? Because from what I know from Tim's lessons, the musical notes that have the lines that go up are for right hand, and the ones that go down are for left hand. Do you just ignore that for guitar, or do they mean something different?
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    Looks a bit challenging. I'd have to see it in tab though, unfortunately, to have any idea.

    My oldest son's doing piano, and I'm learning musical notation through his homework, but piano's so different you can't really apply it to guitar, I feel.

    I'm curious - is that notation for guitar? Because from what I know from Tim's lessons, the musical notes that have the lines that go up are for right hand, and the ones that go down are for left hand. Do you just ignore that for guitar, or do they mean something different?
    The lines for the left hand are bass cleff music, and the left hand has all the bass notes. Right hand is treble cleff and has the higher notes. For guitar you play the right hand stuff, unless you are playing a bass guitar then its the left hand stuff. There is a bit of overlap over both though, but I doubt you are playing a detuned 7 string electric guitar or 6 string bass guitar

    I've played guitar for over 15 years, PM me questions if you find anything you want to ask.

    TAB is easy for learning notes, but there is no indication of fingering or timing so you would have to use your ears with a recording to do the timing and fingering you would only learn if taught. Fingering is important to get technique right from the beginning or you will never reach full potential. Bad fingering habits are a real down fall.
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    What he said. - and most of my classical guitar books have the fingering indicated above the notes for the first 2 stanzas.

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    Tabs: I can sort of read them, but not fast enough to play it at the right speed. I have to work each one out, play the note, then work the next one out...

    Just after some help getting this song sorted, finger positioning few tips on reading the tab etc etc

    Any takers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Dan View Post
    Tabs: I can sort of read them, but not fast enough to play it at the right speed. I have to work each one out, play the note, then work the next one out...

    Just after some help getting this song sorted, finger positioning few tips on reading the tab etc etc

    Any takers?
    what song is it again?
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    I'm no guitarist but I found 'Figerpicking Guitar' by Gary Turner and Brenton White an easy book to follow. Tabs and musical notation. Starts with basic tunes and works through to simple classical, plus finger picking accompaniment styles, country, rock, blues etc. Comes with a cd demonstrating all the lessons. About $45 from Mainline Music. Wairau Road

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Dan View Post
    Tabs: I can sort of read them, but not fast enough to play it at the right speed. I have to work each one out, play the note, then work the next one out...
    guitar tabs are really supposed to be a tool used by guitar players who are already fairly competant, not really to properly learn from. They're also not much use if you don't know the song, unlike proper sheet music (which usually doesn't have fingering charts, unlike BD's example).

    unfortunately I can't help you because I don't recognize the song, it's probably also why the others are asking the same question. I'd need to know the song, then the tabs will make sense to me, then I can go abck to you and see what you need help with.

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