Death penalty

[98tls]

Yeah funny that; we noticed on some lame cops and robbers show the other night (Motor Way Patrol or something) that some native in a yellow Anglia was carting passengers on a restricted, no WOF, no Rego and he was given a sticker to go home and get it sorted. WTF? If that'd been you or me (bro) we'd be looking at about a grand! If that's not racist I dunno what is. That level is where a lot of shit starts.

Yep............finally weve caught the same wave..........BRO........

[SARGE]

Despite emotions telling me otherwise I'd say no. What I would support is finding a small isolated island, ring it with security, and leave the worst there to survive from themselves, completely cut off from civilisation.

better yet ..

1. Houston Astrodome
2. family members of the victim
3. plastic baseball bats
4. Pay Per View
   

for the most violent repeat offendes .. abolish the " Cruel and Unusual Punishment " ban.. have a contest for the most creative

[Ocean1]

It's all about the 'beyond reasonable doubt' thing isn't it? If twenty people see you knife an old lady then fair enough, there's no doubt, out with the rope. On the other hand, a chat with Arthur Allan Thomas would be interesting. Where/when does 'reasonable doubt' (or the lack of it) become reality? When a cop plats a gun/shell case/knife whatever, when luminol sets off some chemical that LOOKS like blood etc etc?

I don't trust the system enought to say 'string em up' unless there's more than one eye witness, video tape or some firm evidence you can eye-ball. Being an innocent on Death Row would drive anyone to drink, especially if they'd got it wrong or some bar steward set you up.

It's a toughie.

What if they're gaga? If their brain is fried why keep them alive? Chuck that one in the mix.

Eye witnesses are amongst the least reliable source of fact, especially with regards to violent events. Even less reliable months or years later when called on to produce testomony. I wouldn't care to trust my life to eye witnesses, I'd be even less happy with written testomony taken by the police at the time.

That's my biggest disappointment with current policing operational policy, the emphasis on the requirement of a successful conviction. It should be focused on successful discovery of evidence.

How many of you have been exposed to charges arising from a partly or completely constructed official statement, (and invariable subsequent conviction?) It's way too common, particularly with regards to traffic infringements eh? If it's as common as some say the system's arguably rotten at the core, how can we respect that level of corruption?

I'm interested in alternatives to the adversarial judicial system too, too often cases are decided with hugely unevenly resourced representation. The French investigative system is interesting.

[imdying]

better yet ..

1. Houston Astrodome
2. family members of the victim
3. plastic baseball bats
4. Pay Per View
   

Best post ever

[Skyryder]

All I can say to those that want the death penalty is to read Trial by Trickery.

If that doesn't change your mind then the only thing that will is to be convicted of a murder that you did not commit.

Skyryder

[onearmedbandit]

better yet ..

1. Houston Astrodome
2. family members of the victim
3. plastic baseball bats
4. Pay Per View
   

for the most violent repeat offendes .. abolish the " Cruel and Unusual Punishment " ban.. have a contest for the most creative

Running Man?

[imdying]

Running Man?

Only if it's corrupt like it was in the movie

[Ocean1]

All I can say to those that want the death penalty is to read Trial by Trickery.

If that doesn't change your mind then the only thing that will is to be convicted of a murder that you did not commit.

Skyryder

Yup, can't pull the trigger if your eyes are closed.

So why aren't you raging about the corruption that makes justice a travesty rather than picking over the inevitable carnage it causes.

[98tls]

All I can say to those that want the death penalty is to read Trial by Trickery.

If that doesn't change your mind then the only thing that will is to be convicted of a murder that you did not commit.

Skyryder

All i can say to you is watch your fathers reaction to the phone call telling him his mothers been raped...........theres 2 sides to every coin........

[SARGE]

All I can say to those that want the death penalty is to read Trial by Trickery.

If that doesn't change your mind then the only thing that will is to be convicted of a murder that you did not commit.

Skyryder

yea .. cuz we ALL know that prison is a horrible place with the big Screen TV's . pool tables, health clubs and free medical.. NO one would want to go THERE........ fuck man .. where do i sign?

Housing a prisoner for a year costs how much?
endless therapy sessions that may or may not work and only serve as light entertainment for the convicted cost how much ?
life sentence means 18 years more or less..

you pays your money, you takes your chances .. Prisons should be a horrible place to go. not a nursery school or resort for the criminals.. daily abuse, gruel, sleep deprivation, slave labor and the only TV channel they should get is the fucking TRAVEL NETWORK

crime would drop 99% within days of this being enacted.. fuck human rights .. they took someone elses .. why should they have any?

[Skyryder]

Yup, can't pull the trigger if your eyes are closed.

So why aren't you raging about the corruption that makes justice a travesty rather than picking over the inevitable carnage it causes.

Read the book and enlighten yourself about our justice system. It will 'open' your eyes, believe me.

Skyryder

[Skyryder]

All i can say to you is watch your fathers reaction to the phone call telling him his mothers been raped...........theres 2 sides to every coin........

This sounds like a personal experiance so I will not comment on it.

Skyryder

[Ocean1]

daily abuse, gruel, sleep deprivation, slave labor and the only TV channel they should get is the fucking TRAVEL NETWORK

Luxury, I'd kill for a bowl of nice gruel.

Now when I were a boy...

[Skyryder]

yea .. cuz we ALL know that prison is a horrible place with the big Screen TV's . pool tables, health clubs and free medical.. NO one would want to go THERE........ fuck man .. where do i sign?

Housing a prisoner for a year costs how much?
endless therapy sessions that may or may not work and only serve as light entertainment for the convicted cost how much ?
life sentence means 18 years more or less..

you pays your money, you takes your chances .. Prisons should be a horrible place to go. not a nursery school or resort for the criminals.. daily abuse, gruel, sleep deprivation, slave labor and the only TV channel they should get is the fucking TRAVEL NETWORK

crime would drop 99% within days of this being enacted.. fuck human rights .. they took someone elses .. why should they have any?

Read the book Sarge. The crown spent over two million dollars on the Watson investigation. That sort of money would convict the man in the moon if Pope so wished 'There but for fortune go I.' One of lifes more sobering cliches.

Skyyrder

[SARGE]

Read the book Sarge. The crown spent over two million dollars on the Watson investigation. That sort of money would convict the man in the moon if Pope so wished 'There but for fortune go I.' One of lifes more sobering cliches.

Skyyrder

they spent that much on OJ too...

and thats US$

now hes searching Golf courses around the world looking for the "REAL" killer