Why can't people be taught proper english as thier second language

**Grahameeboy** · 30th June 2007, 09:42

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

That's the hallucigens dude - nothing to do with accents LOL

Hey Mark, the big problems is that English is actually a very difficult language to learn "properly". The number of stupid rules are just rediculous.

Consider "wind". It's actually 2 words (the breeze, and to wind something up). There is a pile of others too but it's early so - yaaa let me off.

That's right....take a simple example

Town spelt 'Brewood' is actually pronounced 'Brude'.......Gloucestershire...even some Kiwi's get it wrong.

I lived in Caterham...pronounced 'Catram'.......

Even Graham.......'H' is missing and an Asian will pronounce 'Greyham'.....

Then there is 'Gold Watch', 'Apples and Pears'........eek

**007XX** · 30th June 2007, 09:50

One of the thirst things that seems to throw people off is the lack of corelation between the phonetix of the words and its actual spelling...

My boy gets forever confused and expects to write simply things like: their, there, they're....

It seems simple to me, but for the poor little sprog, coming to terms with it is slow progress...

**janno** · 30th June 2007, 10:10

How many languages do you speak V?

My brother's wife is bulgarian and is fluent in FIVE languages!!!

Which she said was not unusual for europeans.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 30th June 2007, 10:31

Originally Posted by paturoa

Makes me wonder what the first language is of KBers???

bikey petrol head england langage... wot else...

**Conquiztador** · 30th June 2007, 10:36

Originally Posted by skidMark

why is it asians and others i'm sure learn a language and leave out crucial bits....

this is from nzdating, dnt give me shit about it cus i really dnt care what u lot think of me most of the time it's, 430 am i can't sleep and i'm grumpy so RAR!

anyways this is lily's profile...dear god...

I was a nurse in China,and worked in hospital ten years. My lifestyle is fit and healthy. I love sporting and outdoor activites.
I'm a honest,gentle,caring and understanding woman,interests in spend time with my darling to travel,dancing,singing,take picture,going out for dinner,watching a DVD in home. I really enjoy to look after my darling and cook for my family

hmmm maybe i could make a good little housewife out of her?

Dear Mr SkidMark (I think is brown type??)

I read this on KB. This after you send me message saying you like me nice horny talk.This after you sent me message saying you like to meet me and fukifuki. You not wery nice man.

I want you to give back money I give to you for your sick mum. I now need money to bring over five brothers who all want to meet you very much.

I also want back pink scooter I send to you so you can come visit.

Why you do this to me after I wery nice and say small cock is OK?

I now understand why you tell me you have no luck on AdultDating.

Lily from China (Who speak a language you not know: Language of love)

**Oakie** · 30th June 2007, 10:42

English is apparantly one of the hardest languages to learn with all the irregular verbs, odd pluralisations and other bizarre parts of speech.

**inlinefour** · 30th June 2007, 10:49

Originally Posted by skidMark

why is it asians and others i'm sure learn a language and leave out crucial bits....

this is from nzdating, dnt give me shit about it cus i really dnt care what u lot think of me most of the time it's, 430 am i can't sleep and i'm grumpy so RAR!

anyways this is lily's profile...dear god...

I was a nurse in China,and worked in hospital ten years. My lifestyle is fit and healthy. I love sporting and outdoor activites.
I'm a honest,gentle,caring and understanding woman,interests in spend time with my darling to travel,dancing,singing,take picture,going out for dinner,watching a DVD in home. I really enjoy to look after my darling and cook for my family

hmmm maybe i could make a good little housewife out of her?

She sounds like my type of woman. I can be nursed by her and in turn she can be nursed by me...

**Skyryder** · 30th June 2007, 11:09

Seen 'worse' spelling from those whose first language is English. Looks like a scam to me.

Skyryder

**BIGBOSSMAN** · 30th June 2007, 11:13

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

That's right....take a simple example

Town spelt 'Brewood' is actually pronounced 'Brude'.......Gloucestershire...even some Kiwi's get it wrong.

I lived in Caterham...pronounced 'Catram'.......

Even Graham.......'H' is missing and an Asian will pronounce 'Greyham'.....

Then there is 'Gold Watch', 'Apples and Pears'........eek

Or Frome in Somerset - pronounced 'Froom'. Worcester - pronounced 'Wooster'. And there are endless examples or words that sound the same phonetically, but are spelt differently. Their/there, effect/affect, mechinery/machinery, canvas/canvass etc. They are called homophones. Actually my girl is from Germany and speaks 3 languages fluently (German/English/Russian) + a bit of French. I speak English only, but luckily am totally conversant in the language of love

**BuFfY** · 30th June 2007, 11:18

I am teaching at the mo and have a lot of ESOL students. Their writing is sometimes hard to understand as they miss out words and sometimes use the wrong word to describe something.
But then I have an english boy (only whitey in my class) who can't even get his letters and numbers around the right way, let alone form a sentence!!

The ESOL teacher at our school is totally amazing though and helps the kiddies a lot!

**rudolph** · 30th June 2007, 11:32

I love my misses bad inglish

**Skyryder** · 30th June 2007, 11:41

Originally Posted by BuFfY

I am teaching at the mo and have a lot of ESOL students. Their writing is sometimes hard to understand as they miss out words and sometimes use the wrong word to describe something.
But then I have an english boy (only whitey in my class) who can't even get his letters and numbers around the right way, let alone form a sentence!!

The ESOL teacher at our school is totally amazing though and helps the kiddies a lot!

Dyslexia. Had that problem myself when I was younger but it can be overcome.

Agoraphobia is in many ways not unlike Dyslexia. Where Dyslexia is a left right thing, Agoraphobia can manifest itself through an up down problem. Both are caused by spatial disorientation. Don't have these problems now but once I did. Not nice.

Skyryder

**Beemer** · 30th June 2007, 12:15

Originally Posted by skidMark

this is from nzdating, dnt give me shit about it cus i really dnt care what u lot think of me most of the time it's, 430 am i can't sleep and i'm grumpy so RAR![/SIZE]

I rest my case! What do you expect on a site like this? Intelligence as well as beauty - yeah, right!

I bet if you met her in the pub and she was hot, you wouldn't give a shit what her English was like so don't be a fucking hypocrite!

And I could also say "pot, kettle, black" - like YOUR English is perfect?