It is this time of the year again. Congrats, Sarge!

[janno]

Yes, Happy Fourth and all that, Sarge.

I think Kiwis in general are uncomfortable about "patriotism" and in my opinion that stems from UK roots.

My mother was a British Army brat, and her family were all about "quiet, understated dignity" and "stiff upper lip". It was absolutely not the done thing to show emotion, you might make others feel uncomfortable!

Which is so bloody unhealthy it's not funny.

Living in Aus, they are almost American-like (what I imagine to be American-like anyway) in their patriotism, and actually it's quite nice! Comforting and unifying - would it have something to do with US and Aus having shedloads more migrants than NZ so patriotism is something that quickly binds diverse peoples together?

Just thinking aloud here . . .

[SARGE]

Piss off back to Canada, Sarge.

can i take Walander with me??


Bob N Doug McKenzie, RUSH, William Shatner ..

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh4k3L0WrEE[/YOUTUBE]

[BIGBOSSMAN]

thanks guys ..


you know ..i'm asked quite often what it is to be an 'American'.. ( meaning that in the truest form) i'll try and describe it to you

I was born in America.. Upstate NY to be exact. America was in a time of turmoil.. the " innocent 50's' were over.. we were embroiled in a "cold War' with Russia..JFK was recently murdered, The Civil rights movement was gaining ground and there was a distinct feeling of unrest.

I watched my dad ship off to VietNam in 67 and held my baby sisters hand while i cried. i didnt know where Viet Nam was or why he had to go. Mom told me that Dad was helping to stop some bad men from hurting our friends. I remember watching the news every night after that to see if i could catch a glimpse of him, but never did. I was so proud that my old man was picked to help do this ..

now, my family has a military history dating back to the American Revolution. every generation, every male of age has done thier duty and served. We dont question the politics, we just put our hands up and do our job. i remember my grandfather hefting me up on his knee as a boy and telling me stories of WW2 ( Marine at Iwo Jima and Guadalcanal) ...HIS Grandfather was Commandant of the Marine Corps during WW1. . I presently have 2 nephews in the Middle East. One is a Marine Recon in Iraq and the other and Army Ranger in Afghanistan. both have been wounded in battle. My Niece is an Airframe Mechanic stationed on a Carrier Battle Group in the Persian Gulf. We have always been proud to answer the call.

You can walk down the street in any American city on any day of the year and see the homes flying the Stars & Bars.. not just one or 2 . every single one of them..when the National Anthem plays before a game on TV.. people stand in their lounges and put their hands on their heart.. School kids recite the Pledge of Allegiance every morning




i catch alot of shit on here for my patriotism.. i catch alot of shit that is not directed at me but at my country.. thats fine .. i'l wear it. Let me just say this ...

America is more than a 10 second soundbite .. it is more than our leaders..it is more than Hollywood and Disneyland... it is the people ..we are proud.. we are compassionate.. go to any town in the Midwest, pop into the local bar or coffee shop and have a drink with one of us .. go to a Friday night football game at the local high school and tell me we have no culture .. go to a Hurricane ravaged town and tell me we have no heart..go to a Veteran's rest home and tell me we are soulless.


know us before you judge us

Nicely put Sarge. You know not everyone will agree with you here, but I'd rather a world influenced by the US of A than a bunch of religious fanatics. And of course there's rock music, blues and soul. All via the U.S. (god bless!).
Bling entirely due

[ZeroIndex]

Watch "Thank you for not smoking" They cover why America, as a country/the American government is the 'best' in the world

It's a funny yet twisted movie... GO THE MERCHANTS OF DEATH!!! (MODs)

[SARGE]

Watch "Thank you for not smoking" They cover why America, as a country/the American government is the 'best' in the world

It's a funny yet twisted movie... GO THE MERCHANTS OF DEATH!!! (MODs)

yea ,.. im a smoker myself .. been that way since 1977.. had nothing to do with the MOD marketing either .,. grand dad smoked .. dad smoked .. we grew Tobacco and it was the natural thing to do at the time ..

i have no desire to stop smoking either .. just to piss the hippies off when i stand outside and blow 2nd hand smoke in their faces

[tri boy]

Happy Fourth Sarge, and all good hearted Americans.
I think Kiwis and Americans have a well founded warmth towards each other.
Young nations, with a sense of purpose and a willingness to work towards a better future.
We don't always get it right, but we don't give up easily either.

[ZeroIndex]

yea ,.. im a smoker myself .. been that way since 1977.. had nothing to do with the MOD marketing either .,. grand dad smoked .. dad smoked .. we grew Tobacco and it was the natural thing to do at the time ..

i have no desire to stop smoking either .. just to piss the hippies off when i stand outside and blow 2nd hand smoke in their faces

The last thing I'm saying is stop smoking... I still smoke occasionally, although I've cut down to a one or two a week, depending if someone wants to part with some of their tobacco... You should hire that movie as I'm sure you'll find it a laugh...

[SARGE]

The last thing I'm saying is stop smoking... I still smoke occasionally, although I've cut down to a one or two a week, depending if someone wants to part with some of their tobacco... You should hire that movie as I'm sure you'll find it a laugh...

yea .. seen it .. 2 stars

[Big Dave]

*&@# the yanks - as soon as I find my ipod I'm hopping on the buell and outta here. Think I have the boss loaded too. *&^#%^& s

[SARGE]

*&@# the yanks - as soon as I find my ipod I'm hopping on the buell and outta here. Think I have the boss loaded too. *&^#%^& s

jeeze dave .. without the yanks .. you would have none of the above ..

[Swoop]

I think NZ could learn a LOT about patriotism from the US. The amount of national flags we see here is pathetic!

Happy Independence Day America!

EDIT: The USA has Bush. We have Heilen Klerke. Wanna swap?

[SARGE]

I think NZ could learn a LOT about patriotism from the US. The amount of national flags we see here is pathetic!

Happy Independence Day America!

EDIT: The USA has Bush. We have Heilen Klerke. Wanna swap?

no fuckin way.. at least we know OUR leader is male

[Big Dave]

jeeze dave .. without the yanks .. you would have none of the above ..

Have a good one old bean.

[SARGE]

Have a good one old bean.

...................

[Big Dave]

.......uncanny