Party pills BANNED!

[scumdog]

Heres an analogy with motorcycling.


Both groups of people pay collectively for the harm that their chosen activity occasionally results in. Just because your thing isnt popping pills, doesnt mean you have to go turn people who are into criminals. There is a cost with making them illegal also, paying for extra people to go through the justice system isnt cheap.

By the way Im not describing the state of the system as it is now with BZP, rather how I think it should be. At the moment it is "self regulated" with no government taxes or regulation. The government had the choice of regulation or prohibition, I think they made the wrong choice.

Of course home made BZP pills would NOT create tax - what analogy with motorbikes would you put here?

And motorbikes are cheaper than a car to run, have a practical application.
BZP has??????????????

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

BZP has??????????????

sorta has a ring to it... "your listening to 1 BEE ZED PEE FM"


errr other than that will get rid of my worms I suppose

[Wolf]

Anal maybe, might be time for you to zip it boy, cause your really starting to make yourself look like a [insert word here].

Errrrm... "teeny-bopper amateur who is so useless he needs to take pills to be able to party"?

Sorry, more than one word, but I doubt even the Germans, with their predilection for connecta-set words, have a single word for that.

Don't worry, eHonda, I'm not quite the anti-everything Nazi I seem to be, you're perfectly entitled to be so lame that the only way you can have fun is to pop a pill...

I actually feel a lot of sympathy for your predicament - must be hard being out-partied by fossils like me.

[eHonda]

If people look at my online profile name differently because of my point of view portrayed in this conversation then so be it.

Of course home made BZP pills would NOT create tax - what analogy with motorbikes would you put here?

What are you talking about? A tax on the sale of the regulated product being sold in shops is what im talking about. People wont buy dodgy bzp if they can buy legitimate stuff in shops. Homemade bzp will only be made when its illegal to buy, and the demand for the drug outweighs the supply - Once everyone's stock piles of pills they will have been buying up now runs out. I guess if bikes were made illegal though people down the street would go about making something that resembled a motorbike to sell to people who want the thrill of motorbiking, and aint going to listen to the government's stupid rule! Wouldnt be very safe though I imagine.

And motorbikes are cheaper than a car to run, have a practical application.
BZP has??????????????

Well if it had no benefits then it wouldnt be selling. People arent that stupid. Its cheaper and safer than alcohol I guess, and does the same job in getting you excited about the otherwise mundane activities like going into town on a saturday night?
So are you saying that if an activity isnt practical for doing things than they should be made illegal? If so better start banning sports, games, movies, and all manner of things people do to pass the time. Rugby injuries anyone? I guess if you ask the people using them they will tell you people get together take them and a good social time ensues, not dissimilar to sports teams getting together to do something they like and enjoying doing it together in good company of others.

I guess these analogies I am using are my way of trying to break down the stigma and stereotypes in peoples heads of party pill users. To get you to look at the activity from an objective viewpoint.

Errrrm... "teeny-bopper amateur who is so useless he needs to take pills to be able to party"?

I dont use them, tried them a few times when they first came out but didnt like them. I aint no teeny bopper either. I think it is exactly this type of stereotyping is the reason why the pills are getting banned. Please dont resort to random name calling if you have nothing to add to the conversation. Thats not what KB is about is it.

[inlinefour]

Clever how you can find dirty words hidden in other words . Wasnt gonna say it, but i believe your personal arrogance warrants it, and it fits in as an example with my motorbiking analogy. Maybe if you had been taking BZP instead of riding bikes as a hobby you would still be able to walk. And the tax payer wouldnt have had to pay to fix you up.

If people look at my online profile name differently because of my point of view portrayed in this conversation then so be it.



What are you talking about? A tax on the sale of the regulated product being sold in shops is what im talking about. People wont buy dodgy bzp if they can buy legitimate stuff in shops. Homemade bzp will only be made when its illegal to buy, and the demand for the drug outweighs the supply - Once everyone's stock piles of pills they will have been buying up now runs out. I guess if bikes were made illegal though people down the street would go about making something that resembled a motorbike to sell to people who want the thrill of motorbiking, and aint going to listen to the government's stupid rule! Wouldnt be very safe though I imagine.



Well if it had no benefits then it wouldnt be selling. People arent that stupid. Its cheaper and safer than alcohol I guess, and does the same job in getting you excited about the otherwise mundane activities like going into town on a saturday night?
So are you saying that if an activity isnt practical for doing things than they should be made illegal? If so better start banning sports, games, movies, and all manner of things people do to pass the time. Rugby injuries anyone? I guess if you ask the people using them they will tell you people get together take them and a good social time ensues, not dissimilar to sports teams getting together to do something they like and enjoying doing it together in good company of others.

I guess these analogies I am using are my way of trying to break down the stigma and stereotypes in peoples heads of party pill users. To get you to look at the activity from an objective viewpoint.



I dont use them, tried them a few times when they first came out but didnt like them. I aint no teeny bopper either. I think it is exactly this type of stereotyping is the reason why the pills are getting banned. Please dont resort to random name calling if you have nothing to add to the conversation. Thats not what KB is about is it.

This is what KBer is all about, having a discussion about whatever and having different views and opinions. Your comments about my accident and yes thats all it was shows the sort of individual you truely are, shit happens and I guess it takes all sorts to make the world go around, even you.

[slowpoke]

Wasnt gonna say it, but i believe your personal arrogance warrants it, and it fits in as an example with my motorbiking analogy. Maybe if you had been taking BZP instead of riding bikes as a hobby you would still be able to walk. And the tax payer wouldnt have had to pay to fix you up.

That's it? That's your best shot? Do you really consider taking BZP as an activity in itself to be a valid alternative to motorcycling? Or any activity for that matter?
You're crackin' me up here mate! Keep talkin', you are the pro-BZP equivalent of Don Brash with all the other pro-BZP dudes goin' "Will somebody puhleeese shut that fugger up!!"
You're a student huh? Pleeeese don't tell me what you are studying, my stomach muscles are already hurtin' something fierce.

[eHonda]

No that wasnt my main point, my main points have been outlined in my posts and it seems most people here are to stuck in their ways to carry out debates on real life topics.

[eHonda]

Im studying telecommunications engineering by the way - in my final year.

[inlinefour]

Im studying telecommunications engineering by the way - in my final year.

How about you move to a country when your finished, where they sell party pills, seeing as your so keen on them...

[eHonda]

Do you not read my posts fully? Im not keen on them, I dont use them. I just know that many others do, and I think that making them illegal is the wrong way to deal with the issue.

[inlinefour]

Do you not read my posts fully? Im not keen on them, I dont use them. I just know that many others do, and I think that making them illegal is the wrong way to deal with the issue.

Of course I read your posts, otherwise I would not be replying to them. I think that making them illegal is the right way to deal with them. That simple really and I can base my opinion on my knowedge base as a registered nurse working in mental health and my experiences in that field.

[scumdog]

What are you talking about? A tax on the sale of the regulated product being sold in shops is what im talking about. People wont buy dodgy bzp if they can buy legitimate stuff in shops. Homemade bzp will only be made when its illegal to buy, and the demand for the drug outweighs the supply -



So are you saying that if an activity isnt practical for doing things than they should be made illegal?

Just like people won't buy dodgy home-brew if they can buy legitemate stuff in shops? Tuis moment.

And you were the one to link the two activities - I brought up a practical reason for motorbikes - couldn't find one for BZP related products except to make psychotic worm-free cattle.

[marioc]

Whats the bet most of you anti-party pillers love to go out and get pissed,a fair percentage i bet.
Whats the difference here?

[scumdog]

Whats the bet most of you anti-party pillers love to go out and get pissed,a fair percentage i bet.
Whats the difference here?

But I can also have a glass of wine with a meal, a can or two of beer after cutting the grass etc.
Don't do THOSE things to get pissed.

Do you take a nibble at a party-pill so you don't get a buzz or something like that??? I doubt it.

The difference is party-pills are only ever taken for one reason.

And a lot of those who take party-pills also drink to get pissed - often at the same time as they're taking party pills....Well down here in unsophisticated red-neck Southern land they do.

What do they do in Auckland? - take latte's with their party-pills???

[davereid]

BZP will go the way of the dodo - its just too hard to make for the buzz it produces.

Much easier to make methamphetamine, as long as your balls are big enough to cope with the bang if the birch reduction goes wrong.