NZ woman drowns and girl's eyes gouged in exorcism

**FlangMasterJ** · 14th December 2007, 08:12

Originally Posted by R6_kid

Religion - its why the world is fucked. Live your life for what it is, when you die you're gone. There is no devil, and drowning your own family is just fucked up. Shoot them before they spread.

Amen......I mean.....hell yeah!

**Dargor** · 6th May 2009, 22:34

So this is in the media again nz herald

Im going to assume this is the extreme where they kill people. But does stuff like this happen often in maori culture.

I was always unsure of the marie[?] at school, now i think i know i had good reason.

**fire eyes** · 6th May 2009, 23:30

Originally Posted by Dargor

So this is in the media again nz herald

Im going to assume this is the extreme where they kill people. But does stuff like this happen often in maori culture.

I was always unsure of the marie[?] at school, now i think i know i had good reason.

Makutu .. or lifting of said curses/entities .. does not warrant any physical contact at all with the 'possessed' or so called ...

Im going out on a limb here ... quite literally .. but .. the person/s responsible for lifting .. should be able to do this spiritually .. the same way one does with soul retrieval .. they walk between without needing to lay one physical touch ..

I read the artical .. and I'm sorry .. but these people have other agendas .. and I am not sure what exactly they were doing .. but I can guarentee it is not something practiced culturally.

Most indigenous cultures work Shamanically .. the motivation here is sadistic.

**jrandom** · 7th May 2009, 07:14

Originally Posted by Dargor

does stuff like this happen often in maori culture.

Not often enough, given that they seem to continue to breed above replacement levels.

**Owl** · 7th May 2009, 07:30

I'd hazard a guess that the devil they saw in her eyes was actually a reflection of themselves.

Fuckwits!

**Xile** · 7th May 2009, 07:30

Crazy people exist everywhere, religious or not: those guys are fucking sick

Originally Posted by Coyote

Religion is not such a bad idea when it teaches people to be kind, humble, help and respect others, etc. It's the fundamentalists that are the problem, the ones that don't take blood transfusions and treat anyone outside their religion as a demon.

I'm not into religions at all but the only religion i'm aware of teaching this and actually RESPECTING it by ALL their people, would be the Bouddists...But kinda agree with ya that fondamentalists are the worse...

**marty** · 7th May 2009, 07:42

Originally Posted by Dargor

So this is in the media again nz herald

Im going to assume this is the extreme where they kill people. But does stuff like this happen often in maori culture.

I was always unsure of the marie[?] at school, now i think i know i had good reason.

yeah - like shooting babies, or simply beating them to death when they can't afford a bullet.

**davereid** · 7th May 2009, 08:13

Originally Posted by pete376403

Just like the body snatching thing - it's *cultural* so probably nothing will happen.
Would be really interesting to see the outcome if (for arguments sake) the eame sort of things were done by (and to) non-"tangata whenua".

This double standard happens all the time, in fact we encourage maori superstition.

We pay them to bless our library, new building or footy park.

We pay maori to use "special vision" to see if we are building on land that may have "sacred" dead maori on.

(I guess the "sacred" dead maori were the ones who ate the "scared" then dead maori.)

We even move roads and highways because of Taniwhas.

Still, we are gonna take their patches, and if they want an extra "H" in Wanganui let 'em have it. We gave them every other written word, whats one more.

**Hitcher** · 7th May 2009, 09:00

This issue is more about morons than Maori. I think that racist attacks are entirely unwarranted.

**ManDownUnder** · 7th May 2009, 09:05

Originally Posted by Hitcher

This issue is more about morons than Maori.

I'd ascribe it to organised religion personally. It's not all bad... very very very far from it normally, but it does have one or two ugly sides and the followers' willingness to allow others to do the thinking for them is one of the big ones.

Originally Posted by Hitcher

I think that racist attacks are entirely unwarranted.

...as always.

Originally Posted by davereid

This double standard happens all the time, in fact we encourage maori superstition.

... and yet Parliament has it's daily prayer, the highest office in the land. It's not a Maori thing - it's a societal thing. Get over it

**bull** · 7th May 2009, 10:23

Originally Posted by Hitcher

This issue is more about morons than Maori. I think that racist attacks are entirely unwarranted.

Sure are unwarranted but its the standard KB reply and if you read most threads youll notice that alot of racism sits on this forum, rather disheartening when you come on here and keep on seeing it.

**Mom** · 9th May 2009, 16:37

Originally Posted by bull

Sure are unwarranted but its the standard KB reply and if you read most threads youll notice that alot of racism sits on this forum, rather disheartening when you come on here and keep on seeing it.

Yes, but you see it is actually OK to be racist for some on here, in fact they actively seek to make sure that their bigotry is shoved into our faces.

**Skyryder** · 9th May 2009, 16:50

Originally Posted by Hitcher

The world has gone fucking mad.

There was a time when it was let out early for good behavour but of late it has breached it's parole and has been re-commited.

There are some sad sad fuckers out there.

Skyryder

**Dave Lobster** · 9th May 2009, 17:03

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

... and yet Parliament has it's daily prayer, the highest office in the land. It's not a Maori thing - it's a societal thing. Get over it

It's not a societal thing at all. Most of society has ditched the nonsense for what it is. It's a dumb thing.. that has no place in the modern world.