Does the punishment match the crime?

[peasea]

$200 for no WOF
or
$750 for no RUC

which is worse....

must be The RUC because the fines bigger...
What a crock of shit.

It's all about the MUH_NEEEEEE

[firefighter]

Does the punishment fit the crime?

Maybe not, but it fits with the costs of every other fine in NZ.

Do you get demerits with RUC or Rego? That is what i would be worrying about personally.

I'd say the thing that sucks is that after you pay the fines(if you dont get off) you will still have to get you RUC and rego or whatever up to date.

You realise if the car was full of darkies who could'nt pay the fine he would'nt have bothered issuing it eh? (serious I have some friends who tell me these things, oh yeah and their words too)

They would have seen a nice guy who looks like he can pay for the fine and issued the ticket.

The cop who fined the op deserves that PIG title, what a self righteous little cunt. No respect from me, and anyone whos read my thoughts on NZpolice knows I defend them to no end, apart from here, this is bollocks.

$200 for no WOF
or
$750 for no RUC

which is worse....

must be The RUC because the fines bigger...
What a crock of shit.

Totally agree, a rego less than 2 months out (and ruc within 1000kms) needent be ticketed, they get their money either way, you have to pay for your usage in the end. I think it's a fucken pointless ticket. It literally achieves nothing.

[EJK]

Ginga cop?

[peasea]

You realise if the car was full of darkies who could'nt pay the fine he would'nt have bothered issuing it eh? (serious I have some friends who tell me these things, oh yeah and their words too)

They would have seen a nice guy who looks like he can pay for the fine and issued the ticket.

The cop who fined the op deserves that PIG title, what a self righteous little cunt. No respect from me, and anyone whos read my thoughts on NZpolice knows I defend them to no end, apart from here, this is bollocks.



Totally agree, a rego less than 2 months out (and ruc within 1000kms) needent be ticketed, they get their money either way, you have to pay for your usage in the end. I think it's a fucken pointless ticket. It literally achieves nothing.

I love you and want to have your babies.

[ynot slow]

Was reading The Star South Taranaki community paper last week,a lady was done DIC about 600-750mcg or so,the judge when sentancing said words to the effect "you have limited means to pay a fine,so $300 and 6 months"don't quote me on amounts but they are pretty close,what pissed me off was she had the money to get in her car to get pissed,whether she bought the piss doesn't matter.

A couple of years ago there was an outburst from the districts(Sth Naki) head police honcho Frank Grant saying he expected his officers to finish their jobs(paperwork) and if it took 17-18hours so be it,a local trucky explained could his firm have an exemption to their driving hours as well,as he said any person can have breakdowns etc,and was tough doing Hawera-Auckland return in 14 hour day at times,his firm was marginally targeted by the mod squad.

[peasea]

Was reading The Star South Taranaki community paper last week,a lady was done DIC about 600-750mcg or so,the judge when sentancing said words to the effect "you have limited means to pay a fine,so $300 and 6 months"don't quote me on amounts but they are pretty close,what pissed me off was she had the money to get in her car to get pissed,whether she bought the piss doesn't matter.

A couple of years ago there was an outburst from the districts(Sth Naki) head police honcho Frank Grant saying he expected his officers to finish their jobs(paperwork) and if it took 17-18hours so be it,a local trucky explained could his firm have an exemption to their driving hours as well,as he said any person can have breakdowns etc,and was tough doing Hawera-Auckland return in 14 hour day at times,his firm was marginally targeted by the mod squad.

I have some very close contacts in the linehaul trucking game. It's a minefield of k's, money and political claptrap combined with hard-arse drivers tryjng to make a living/get a job done and roads that can't support the traffic, be-it heavy or otherwise.

Biking in NZ is a unique and very dangerous experience, as is trucking. There's nothing worse than the two paths colliding. I feel for the truck drivers (who rank among my friends and family), they have to do mega hours and be sober in the off-hours to make the grade. You try it! I can't even get close and I admit it.

I've been stuck behind trucks on bikes and in cars in many conditions. For the most part (99.9%) I've had good feedback, got a wink of the indicator or whatever and it's all been good to overtake. Truckers are the last group on NZ roads I'd be targeting when it comes to road speed or even road manners.

Cops, however, need the bash.

[MaxB]

That last point aside, I would tend to agree with the general sentiment of your post regarding the WOF.

Case in point: a few years ago my car was hit diagonally in the right front quarter by another car driver coming from the opposite direction who wasn't paying attention and drifted over to my side of the road. both of us traveling at approx 50kph in opposite directions down the same stretch of road.

I didn't suffer any lacerations or broken bones, but I was off work for most of a week as I couldn't move due to muscular stiffness. Also I had to find a new car as mine was a write-off.

He was fined $500 for careless use of a motor vehicle.... can you believe that?

Yes I can.

I was in the gallery on a break (jury duty) and sat in on the traffic cases. On the same day I watched a cage driver busted for 50-60kmh over on a deserted road get 28 day walk, 50 points and a $1000+ fine with costs for exceeding the speed limit. No victims.

Then came a woman (with her lawyer) who ran over her friends toddler reversing out of her driveway breaking the wee one's leg. The impact report said the kid was terrified to go out side etc even though she was healed physically. The driver was charged with careless use causing injury and got No ban, 100 hours community service and $350 fine. The magistrate said 'Do not underestimate the value of community service' FFS

For a long time now I have thought we only get the justice we can afford.

[scumdog]

Good policing went out with the ark.

'Good' Policing is when it all goes in your favour I take it?

[peasea]

'Good' Policing is when it all goes in your favour I take it?

Good policing is when it goes in the favour of what's fair and honest. No doubt you're having trouble understanding that. Not surprising and no fault of your own.

I'd pat you on the head but I don't have my rubber undies to get your attention.

[scumdog]

Good policing is when it goes in the favour of what's fair and honest. No doubt you're having trouble understanding that. Not surprising and no fault of your own.

I'd pat you on the head but I don't have my rubber undies to get your attention.

So many peadophiles see their treatment as unfair and dishonest, I guess they never got good policing either eh?

[peasea]

So many peadophiles see their treatment as unfair and dishonest, I guess they never got good policing either eh?

Actually, they probably did, that's their problem.

[McDuck]

RUCs must have been over a fair bit....

[Tubbsy]

RUCs must have been over a fair bit....

Yeh they were because I ride my bike most days and totally lost track, that's why I admit it was deserved to get pinged, just though it was a little OTT on the amount.

[Tubbsy]

Good policing is when it goes in the favour of what's fair and honest.

Couldn't have said it better. There could be much discussion over what's fair and honest too, but at the end of the day, emotion aside, if you take an objective look at some of the penalties imposed for minor v major offenses, there does seem to be a bit of an imbalance.

[Okey Dokey]

I think Jantar hit the nail on the head when he pointed out that this is not a traffic offense but a form of tax evasion. I believe the OP, that it was an oversight and not deliberate. The government is notoriously stern about this sort of thing.

Fines are tougher to take when you are on a lower than average wage. When $750 is over 2 weeks take-home pay, it does hurt and does require some serious adjustment to one's budget.

I don't know what the answer is, I just try to be real careful and get all my paperwork done in time. I think some scandinavian countries have a sliding scale of fines (for traffic crimes) which are based on the offenders income. Maybe this is more equitable?