Integrity

[Maha]

Got a phone call on Monday, guy wanted 35mts of vinyl installed in a town nearby. I told him I could get there Thursday for the day, and finish of Monday/Tuesday if I needed to. He said he would email me the details ie: pay rates/address/floor plan and would have the Vinyl on site. I swapped a few jobs around that were booked for Monday/Tuesday (smaller domestic installs) to accommodate this job (I really need the work) As of yesterday, I had not heard form this guy, no email etc. I rang him, got answer phone, left a message 'can I at least have an address please''? ...no return call. About 7pm I rang again, my van is loaded ready to go in the morning, left another message. Then I got a txt from him saying, he had pressure put on him by the builder and got in and done it himself (hes an ex layer)
So here I am, no work today, maybe, just maybe I can juggle things around and get some for Monday/Tuesday but...

Wheres the integrity of some people?

[NZsarge]

Yeah dude, that's ratshit! At least he could have kept you in the loop fer christsakes.

[MSTRS:Me]

Wheres the integrity of some people?

Bugger, mate, that sucks.
As for the integrity bit...same as it's always been. How many times over the years have you had a car/bike/whatever for sale, had a phone call from a very interested party who 'will be out to view just after lunch' and guess what...?

[Maha]

Yeah dude, that's ratshit! At least he could have kept you in the loop fer christsakes.

Thats all I ask for John, I wouldn't have had a problem with it had he rang and told me the situation.

Bugger, mate, that sucks.
As for the integrity bit...same as it's always been. How many times over the years have you had a car/bike/whatever for sale, had a phone call from a very interested party who 'will be out to view just after lunch' and guess what...?

They tun up at your place expecting lunch?

[Maha]

The txt added ''I will give you a ring tomorrow''
What for? to say sorry? offer me another job at some other time?
Would I even consider working for this guy again?
I need the work but dont like being jerked around.

[Stirts]

Then I got a txt from him

A farken txt?!! What a gutless piece of shit, the least he could do is give you a farken phone call!!

What a wankstain!!

[coffeejunkie]

I'm sorry you missed out on the job Maha, I think it BLOODY rude of him to not at least ring and say...cheers mate but the jobs done, It wouldn't have killed him! Some people just have no idea

[Maha]

A farken txt?!! What a gutless piece of shit, the least he could do is give you a farken phone call!!

What a wankstain!!

He said he was low on battery....
It was a two page txt...

[Lissa]

The guy not only lacks Integrity but also basic manners. Wouldnt have hurt to tell you earlier what the situation was, but he obviously couldnt be arsed telling you, hes a dick, go do a driveby his house and throw toilet rolls at his house and shout obscenities.

[Hitcher]

I am sure that the apprenticeship training for most trades comprises two key elements:

1. An inability to manage time and to communicate with clients

2. Rote learning the excuse book for when they're busted on point 1.


The number of times I have rescheduled my calendar to be on time for a scheduled meeting with a tradie for them to do a no show is many. The number of times the offending tradies have called proactively to either reschedule or apologise is few.

My time costs money too, you pricks. Dwell on that for a moment.

A few years ago when I was plying my craft as a self-employed consultant, my Doctor kept me waiting for one-and-a-half hours for an appointment. My enquiries of her receptionist as to what was going on were "Please sit down, Dr will be available soon."

After eventually seeing the Doctor, said receptionist tried to hit me up for $70.00. I said that they owed me $75.00, being my billable time lost less the $70.00 for the Dr's consult. A brief fracas ensued, sufficient to extract the Dr from her consulting room. Initially she sided with her receptionist but then said we should call it quits. I agreed, on the basis that her receptionist be sent on a customer service course, and recommended Kiwi Host. Much snorting resulted.

I now go to a different GP.

[Finn]

Wheres the integrity of some people?

There isn't any so don't waste time looking for professional integrity. Generally speaking, (and there are very few exceptions) people are useless, nasty and unprofessional in business and only look after themselves. A recession makes them even worse and it doesn't matter if you're dealing with a sole trader or multi-nationals - they're all the same.

This doesn't mean you have to be a cunt like them so don't give up on your own values and principles, just try to adapt to all the bullshit.

[Maha]

I'm sorry you missed out on the job Maha, I think it BLOODY rude of him to not at least ring and say...cheers mate but the jobs done, It wouldn't have killed him! Some people just have no idea

The guy not only lacks Integrity but also basic manners. Wouldnt have hurt to tell you earlier what the situation was, but he obviously couldnt be arsed telling you, hes a dick, go do a driveby his house and throw toilet rolls at his house and shout obscenities.

He needs Bitch Slap???....
Im right into honesty (oh how I hear the laughter) and I dont think its wrong to expect it in return, the shop I work for change work around almost daily, but at leats I know where I am with it. The guy was given my name by an Auckland Flooring supplier, under normal cirumstances I wouldn't have said yes to the job, but things aint 'normal' at present.

[ynot slow]

No wonder he is an EX layer eh?

That sucks,don't know how many times I used to say to customers when asking when the house will be finished,get reply of 3rd May or similar,so would say ok will get blinds hung about 23May,by that time the flooring will be down,usually pretty well true,although I did have the goods ready just in case.

Always someone either sparky,plumber,mostly painter delays the flooring guys,was fun organising layers when the builder phones Tuesday saying not ready for 30m carpet,15mvinyl till Friday instead of Thurs/Fri,oh and they are shifting in on Sunday!!!

[Maha]

There isn't any so don't waste time looking for professional integrity. Generally speaking, (and there are very few exceptions) people are both useless, nasty and unprofessional in business and only look after themselves. A recession makes them even worse and it doesn't matter if you're dealing with a sole trader or multi-nationals - they're all the same.

This doesn't mean you have to be a cunt like them so don't give up on your own values and principles, just try to adapt to all the bullshit.

Sound advice Finn, my bread and butter is here in Warkworth (work covers a large enough area Mangawhai/Snells Beach etc) This particular chap in Auckland has decent amount of work from what I gather but, on first dealings, not sure I need him to be honest.

[Maha]

I am sure that the apprenticeship training for most trades comprises two key elements:

1. An inability to manage time and to communicate with clients

2. Rote learning the excuse book for when they're busted on point 1.


The number of times I have rescheduled my calendar to be on time for a scheduled meeting with a tradie for them to do a no show is many. The number of times the offending tradies have called proactively to either reschedule or apologise is few.

My time costs money too, you pricks. Dwell on that for a moment.

A few years ago when I was plying my craft as a self-employed consultant, my Doctor kept me waiting for one-and-a-half hours for an appointment. My enquiries of her receptionist as to what was going on were "Please sit down, Dr will be available soon."

After eventually seeing the Doctor, said receptionist tried to hit me up for $70.00. I said that they owed me $75.00, being my billable time lost less the $70.00 for the Dr's consult. A brief fracas ensued, sufficient to extract the Dr from her consulting room. Initially she sided with her receptionist but then said we should call it quits. I agreed, on the basis that her receptionist be sent on a customer service course, and recommended Kiwi Host. Much snorting resulted.

I now go to a different GP.

Some years ago Hitcher (when Georgie Pie made a brief comeback) I was hired to install the 25mm rubber tiles in the playgrounds in all the new outlets. Didnt matter where the outlets were, I would be there at 8.30am. Thats the time I said I will be there and I was, I worked out of Rotorua and done the Otahahuhu/Manakau/Bombay/Greenlane/Rotorua/Tauranga/Napier/Gisborne outlets, Gisborne? I did the vinyl as well, went down there for a week but the rest? yeah I was always on time, hated letting people down, still do.