Driver didn't see me...

**CookMySock** · 8th May 2009, 15:00

Originally Posted by BMWST?

nice theory but it wont work.....there will still be people who wont LOOK for you.You need to moderate your behaviur a little bit to allow for the day it happens.I Do beleive that you CAN be assertive,just dont take it to far....

Well it does work, but I agree some people simply fail to look, or are distracted. My theory is to appear far more bothersome and/or fearsome than anything else, so their cellphone dropped on the floor pales into insignificance compared to my growly bike through their drivers' window.

There was a car-vs-bike crash right in the Whakatane town yesterday. I was dodging rain this morning and got talking to a bloke who was there, and he reckoned the car went straight through a give way sign and T-boned the biker big-time. Bone sticking out of leg etc etc etc, bike flung some distance. How the hell the cager could have done that is beyond me. Either no brain or no eyes.

Yeah so point taken.

Steve

**chester** · 8th May 2009, 22:07

Originally Posted by MyGSXF

Yep..

along with

We need to make ourselves as VISIBLE as possible!! Wear a brightly coloured helmet, put some reflective stickers on it for extra night time visibility. Ride with headlight on. Wear coloured gear.. & better yet, a brightly coloured vest! All these things add together to break that motion camouflage effect! They will draw the drivers eyes to us like a magnet!!

Biking is about riding.. enjoying the ride.. & staying ALIVE!! Anything we can do to promote that.. is all good!

dont mean to be rude... but never have seen you wearing a glow vest while riding , practice what you preach eh........

**Supertwin Don** · 9th May 2009, 02:21

FWIW - how about getting the government to have a decent "see what you are looking at " campaign - instead of constantly trying to have the victim make up for other people's idiocy

I don't normally ride with headlight on - people see you a long way away and then forget you!
I don't wear a hi-viz garment - the eyesight test over here is to read a BLACK number on a white or yellow background.

and on the way home, I'l probably be taken out by a smidsy!!!!

**CookMySock** · 9th May 2009, 08:17

Originally Posted by Supertwin Don

FWIW - how about getting the government to have a decent "see what you are looking at " campaign - instead of constantly trying to have the victim make up for other people's idiocy

Well said.

Originally Posted by Supertwin Don

I don't normally ride with headlight on - people see you a long way away and then forget you!

I don't know about that logic.

Steve

**jrandom** · 9th May 2009, 08:32

Originally Posted by MyGSXF

We need to make ourselves as VISIBLE as possible!! Wear a brightly coloured helmet, put some reflective stickers on it for extra night time visibility. Ride with headlight on. Wear coloured gear.. & better yet, a brightly coloured vest!

Horseshit. A timid rider covered in neon signs will still get creamed every time, because...

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Personally I believe in the majority of cases it's simply because they don't look.

Big Dave's spot on.

Originally Posted by MyGSXF

Biking is about riding.. enjoying the ride.. & staying ALIVE!! Anything we can do to promote that.. is all good!

Has anyone else ever noticed that it's the people who basically can't ride who always witter on about this safety bollocks?

**NordieBoy** · 9th May 2009, 08:58

Originally Posted by jrandom

Has anyone else ever noticed that it's the people who basically can't ride who always witter on about this safety bollocks?

Isn't Rossi on the riders safety council thingy?

**MyGSXF:Me** · 9th May 2009, 09:13

Originally Posted by jrandom

Has anyone else ever noticed that it's the people who basically can't ride who always witter on about this safety bollocks?

Has any one else ever noticed that's it's the people who think far too much of their own opinion, who always twitter on about shit they no nothing about....

??

Have you ever met me..? have you ever been out riding with me..!

I have completed several 'advanced rider training courses' with 'Roadsafe' & have been helper at several courses, over the past 3 years. I am also in the process of training to be a riding instructor with them, myself! but wit there's more.. & gee.. I'm also a KB mentor...

Maybe you shouldn't generalize like you tend to do, quite sooooo much...

**James Deuce** · 9th May 2009, 09:17

Have you ever noticed how women type people overreact to Jrandom's trolling?

He must be a manly man.

**Gummie** · 9th May 2009, 09:31

Back to subject.
The recent adverts on tv about crashes at intersections.
Why do none of them involve bikes it would be the perfect opertunity to show people that there are bikes and even trucks that use intersections too.
In the ad its just cars like they are the only vehicles on the road.
I drive/ride cars, trucks and bikes every day

and i use intersections just like everyone else.

**bogan** · 9th May 2009, 10:16

Originally Posted by Gummie

Back to subject.
The recent adverts on tv about crashes at intersections.
Why do none of them involve bikes it would be the perfect opertunity to show people that there are bikes and even trucks that use intersections too.
In the ad its just cars like they are the only vehicles on the road.
I drive/ride cars, trucks and bikes every day

and i use intersections just like everyone else.

An excellent point, i assume you mean the ones with the weird looking guy spinning the wheel. A somewhat brutal interpretation could be a guy pulls out in front of a bike, then view cuts to pick of said bike buried up to swingarm in drivers side door, wud be somewhat graphic but i think itd get the point across, well as much is as possible with a tv advert anyway.