2009 CBR1000RR Fireblade

**Deano** · 17th May 2009, 21:22

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

Ahhh the great kiwi sheeple rollover, rather stick up for the brand in some kind of misplaced loyalty than face the truth-consumers are being ripped off. The K5-K6 deserved bagging and so does the CBR1000 08. No agenda, just fact. One had a questionable frame the other, high oil usage
Have a search. www.1000rr.net

Sorry SPB - I'm ignorant to any oil issues of the 08 CBR so stand corrected if that is the case.

I test rode one and it was awesome. Restored some faith power wise.

Nothing wrong with being loyal though.

Originally Posted by dipshit

It doesn't effect the 05 CBRs... The new 08 ones are having the issue.

Bugger. Is it quite common ?

**boomer** · 17th May 2009, 21:24

Originally Posted by Deano

Nothing wrong with being loyal though.

i knew u were a homo

**cs363** · 17th May 2009, 21:27

Originally Posted by Deano

Bugger. Is it quite common ?

Well, as I posted earlier - depends who you listen to. Appears that it's only the '08 model that has had issues and there is much debate on how widespread the problem is and whether it's a Honda issue or owner (break in/oil selection etc) issue.

**Lula** · 17th May 2009, 21:33

Originally Posted by Sidewinder

fucking aye, if you get a bike i can help you build it, i just dont have the bling for another bike atm!

Here's your chance to assist two Damsels in distress: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=99492

**Deano** · 17th May 2009, 21:37

Originally Posted by boomer

i knew u were a homo

I love you too mate. How you doing ?

**boomer** · 17th May 2009, 21:45

Originally Posted by Deano

I love you too mate. How you doing ?

Good thanks Deano; being an x homo myself as u know.

lol..

**AllanB** · 17th May 2009, 21:55

Meh - Suzuki had issues with Bandit 1200's around 2002 ish = particularly in the US - lots of denial. I've a Bike magazine here and their long term Triumph triple Tiger seized - apparently they had not checked the oil for a couple of thousand kms and it drunk it all! In both cases the factory stated acceptable oil use in the industry as up to 1l per 1000 kms!

F-that I say.

That was acceptable in 1957 no doubt.

In NZ we are pretty well covered with the consumers act. It just may take a bit of time to get things sorted if there are issues.

Running in correctly.

A bike magazine gets a new bike to test - in many cases brand spanking.
They carefully run in it - yeah right! They give it heaps!
Do they burn oil super early?
Do they crap out early?

Someone knows.

A demo bike tends to get run in 'fast'

I know of a few who have purchased them with zero issues. In fact the demo bikes tend to get extra care - more oil changes etc.

Sports bikes. This years fancy............... next years.....

Wait 4 months or so the 2010 models will be out.

**Pussy** · 17th May 2009, 22:26

As I mentioned earlier.... the honing on the 08 'Blade's bores is VERY coarse(read: deep).
The plating on the bores is very hard
It is not surprising they are burning oil... the oil rings would never bed-in properly

**Lula** · 17th May 2009, 22:35

I also forgot to mention that the ABS version of the new CBR1000RR is amazing.

Today was perfect weather for trying out how the brakes handle and these are so smooth with the right amount of tension. I jumped on the front a few times at speed to see if it would lock up and plant the nose into the ground, instead nothing but controlled even braking in the wet. Felt good.

**cs363** · 17th May 2009, 23:08

Originally Posted by AllanB

Meh - Suzuki had issues with Bandit 1200's around 2002 ish = particularly in the US - lots of denial. I've a Bike magazine here and their long term Triumph triple Tiger seized - apparently they had not checked the oil for a couple of thousand kms and it drunk it all! In both cases the factory stated acceptable oil use in the industry as up to 1l per 1000 kms!

F-that I say.

That was acceptable in 1957 no doubt.

In NZ we are pretty well covered with the consumers act. It just may take a bit of time to get things sorted if there are issues.

Running in correctly.

A bike magazine gets a new bike to test - in many cases brand spanking.
They carefully run in it - yeah right! They give it heaps!
Do they burn oil super early?
Do they crap out early?

Someone knows.

A demo bike tends to get run in 'fast'

I know of a few who have purchased them with zero issues. In fact the demo bikes tend to get extra care - more oil changes etc.

Sports bikes. This years fancy............... next years.....

Wait 4 months or so the 2010 models will be out.

On most forums the general consensus seems to be that the bikes that were run in hard didn't have issues, whereas the ones that were pussied did.

Which brings me to:

Originally Posted by Pussy

As I mentioned earlier.... the honing on the 08 'Blade's bores is VERY coarse(read: deep).
The plating on the bores is very hard
It is not surprising they are burning oil... the oil rings would never bed-in properly

Agreed as I saw the same engines you did, however one was worse than the other and that could have just been a particular batch. So whilst we have witnessed that particular issue it doesn't neccessarily mean that all have that problem.

**SixPackBack** · 18th May 2009, 06:41

Originally Posted by Lula

Thanks I will do what I can.
You know you and any others out there are welcome to write in and ask yourselves. It's a section called a 'Letter to the editor' and the email address is: editor@motorcycletrader.co.nz

Check the in tray sometime this week.

Originally Posted by cs363

Before you start digging too deep from the wrong end though, be aware that this 'issue' is not as big as some may make out - spend some time searching the forums and it seems some '08 1000RR owners have had problems whilst just as many if not more haven't. Some people are putting it down to incorrect break-in or wrong oil usage.
Sounds to me like it's a minor issue that some rather vocal people have blown out of proportion on the internet (as they do...)
Not denying there is probably some fire behind the smoke, but lets get a balanced viewpoint eh, rather than the rabid conspiracy theorists one...
Some people on internet forums just seem to live for this kind of shit.

Emotive posts without fact are of little help........

Originally Posted by Deano

Sorry SPB - I'm ignorant to any oil issues of the 08 CBR so stand corrected if that is the case.

I test rode one and it was awesome. Restored some faith power wise.

Nothing wrong with being loyal though..........

Not ridden one yet Deano [on my list...]. They sound like a great bike. [which makes the issue all the more disappointing].

**cs363** · 18th May 2009, 07:34

Originally Posted by SixPackBack;1129216960[FONT=Comic Sans MS

Emotive posts without fact are of little help........[/FONT]

Like yours?

I'm not denying there have been cases of oil consumption, in fact as previously stated I've witnessed it first hand, what I am saying is it may not be quite the big issue you are making out - you posted a link, I searched -that's the impression I came away with as there are more people posting that they haven't experienced problems than there are with problems.
If as you stated there are facts then it would do your case well to actually post them, rather than the alarmist post you did make.
All I'm saying is that if Lula is going to do an investigation it should be balanced rather than rushing in wailing about a problem that may not be as big as it appears on the internet. If it is just a vocal minority with the problem and Honda has a fix then it's not a major issue, if on the other hand they are all lemons then we definitely need to know about it.
Dismissive posts as above not backed up by any substance do your case no good.

**Lula** · 18th May 2009, 16:35

For those of you that are interested just posted pics of the CBR1000RR and R1 test bikes under my album titled 'Slow Rides'.

Just statics at the moment, will have riding shots and video of me testing them to follow soon

**NZsarge** · 18th May 2009, 16:39

Originally Posted by Lula

For those of you that are interested just posted pics of the CBR1000RR and R1 test bikes under my album titled 'Slow Rides'.

Just statics at the moment, will have riding shots and video of me testing them to follow soon

Is there a review of the R1 in the works?