What policy would DEFINITELY get your vote?

**Trudes** · 27th May 2009, 20:14

Originally Posted by James Deuce

The point is that once Kiwis get in or on a vehicle they don't really care about other people. It's why our road toll continues to rise. It's difficult to explain without raising hackles, but once I had kids, my disrespect for other people, and my inability to tolerate their mistakes diminished fairly rapidly.

The world's a cruel place. We don't have to be cruel as well.

I totally agree, and I don't condone purposely mowing people down in your vehicle or not stopping if you do hit someone, I also know I would feel like shit if I did hit someone who walked out in front of my vehicle..... however I was replying (and playing devils advocate to some degree, I don't think I should be held accountable for someone else's' mistake, would you seriously be happy to serve jail time, or as some people who have replied in this thread would have it, be executed, for someone walking out in front of you while you are on your bike or in your car?) to this comment:

Finally, I'd also vote for someone who changes the law around hitting pedestrians and cyclists - if you hit someone, regardless if they dropped out of the sky, then the driver is at fault - and they serve jail time. It would save lives and create an attitude shift. It works in Holland, Sweden, Switzerland... Oh, the difference is they are civilised...

**Genestho** · 27th May 2009, 20:48

Originally Posted by AD345

Keep on truckin

Ok I'm backin the truck up, look you... don't pick on my diamond in the rough!

So "choices" was the wrong word - I'm tired, I apologise..

To clarify...

I find it difficult, when I see excuses made for past history, race, and poverty, knowing that we are all born equal with the same opportunities available. Attitude and effort is everything, it comes for free, we're all capable of it, and it knows no colour.

**AD345** · 27th May 2009, 20:56

Originally Posted by T.G.W

Ok I'm backin the truck up, look you... don't pick on my diamond in the rough!

So "choices" was the wrong word - I'm tired, I apologise..

To clarify...

I find it difficult, when I see excuses made for past history, race, and poverty, knowing that we are all born equal with the same opportunities available. Attitude and effort is everything, it comes for free, we're all capable of it, and it knows no colour.

I understand what you are trying to say - I just don't agree with it.

I don't think that everyone is born with equality of opportunity.

I DO think that some people make better (subjectively) choices with the opportunities that do come along than others do with the same or simlar opportunity.

However, I firmly believe in the axiom that "life is what happens while you are making other plans" and sometimes even the same coice taken by two different people with the same or simlar opportunity can result in vastly differing outcomes.

Shit happens

**davebullet** · 27th May 2009, 20:57

The party that institute a National Biker day.

On this day, all motorcyclists will be treated to a ceremony with scantily clad women (or men for the other persuasion) lay the best pies at said bikers feet for said consumption.

**Genestho** · 27th May 2009, 21:07

Originally Posted by AD345

However, I firmly believe in the axiom that "life is what happens while you are making other plans" and sometimes even the same coice taken by two different people with the same or simlar opportunity can result in vastly differing outcomes.

Shit happens

Absolutely understand what you're saying there dude

**Trudes** · 27th May 2009, 21:27

Originally Posted by davebullet

The party that institute a National Biker day.

On this day, all motorcyclists will be treated to a ceremony with scantily clad women (or men for the other persuasion) lay the best pies at said bikers feet for said consumption.

Oh hell yeah!!!

**Ixion** · 27th May 2009, 21:29

Originally Posted by davebullet

The party that institute a National Biker day.

On this day, all motorcyclists will be treated to a ceremony with scantily clad women (or men for the other persuasion) lay the best pies at said bikers feet for said consumption.

No beer? FAIL.

**mstriumph** · 27th May 2009, 21:53

Originally Posted by Marmoot

Any one of these would do for me:

- Introducing moral and ethics education into schools from early years up to pre-university....................... .

ahhhhhh but WHOSE morals? Whose ethics?

seriously, i'd vote for anyone who'd take a firm hand to the tax system, basing EVERYTHING on the premise that income should only be taxed once ... ie either when you make it or when you spend it, NOT both

....... erm

... i'd ALSO vote for anyone taking a firm hand with pollie's perks - making the whole system reasonable, transparant and AUDITABLE.

- and i'd like a referrendum here in west australia about something sensible, like bringing back hanging or doing away with middle-class welfare, instead of the ENDLESS series of daylight saving referrendums they keep thrusting at us [well, four to date - all 'no' .... what makes you think they aren't listening?]

- oh

and free city parking for bikes

... and mebbe free chocolate? ...

**Ixion** · 27th May 2009, 22:06

Oh. Yes. How could I overlook that.

Free txting. I have long maintained that txting is a social good so great that the means to do it should be supplied free by the government. Txting should be considered an essential and inalienable social right.

**PirateJafa** · 27th May 2009, 22:17

Yours are just gibberish anyway Ixion.

**Marmoot** · 27th May 2009, 22:57

Originally Posted by mstriumph

ahhhhhh but WHOSE morals? Whose ethics?

Just "everybody's moral": don't steal, don't vandalise, don't lie, etc.

Regardless of religions or faith, the 10 commandments make a good base for morality.
True story. Just ask Vin Diesel!

**Robert Taylor** · 27th May 2009, 23:27

Originally Posted by short-circuit

Who cares...you're a cock

Maybe, but at least Im visible

**Ixion** · 28th May 2009, 11:54

Originally Posted by PirateJafa

Yours are just gibberish anyway Ixion.

Iz jst U. U old ppz alwz cmpln dt u cnt _stnd txt.

**short-circuit** · 28th May 2009, 12:50

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Maybe, but at least Im visible

I guess you have to be if you use the site as a means to sell people shit (I'm talking about good shit - as in Ohlins, not the shit shit - as in your opinions)