White Tiger kills keeper at Zion

[Winston001]

Cats have to be dominated. So long as your tiger respects you and thinks you are the boss, you are safe. However cats like to play, and also have bad hair days. A playful or warning bite from your average moggy is laughed off but when its a full-sized animal, it discovers the "boss" isn't up to the game. Hmmm.....interesting, might try that again....

The keepers use things like fire extinguishers and electric prods for safety. A dart gun would be too slow when you are trying to save a person's life. I understand the electric prod didn't force this tiger off.

[sinfull]

No, It had the taste.
I'm a tiger expert,I've heard on TV (don't read books-not a homo) how they become man eaters.

And I saw tigger on whinny the poo,
I know what I am talking about

Well it's funny you should say that !!! Have you had any experience with big cats ?

[Winston001]

No, It had the taste.
I'm a tiger expert,I've heard on TV (don't read books-not a homo) how they become man eaters.

And I saw tigger on whinny the poo,
I know what I am talking about

Oh well that's alright then. I'm convinced.

[Mikkel]

Certain dog breeds retain more of that 'wild' instinct than others and are more prone to attack without much notice, not too different to a hand reared large cat really. To the handlers, those cats would have been just like your pet is too you, only when they play you dont get scratched, you get mauled.

Oh, is that so?

The only difference between tigers and dogs being that dogs have been domesticated for somewhere between 10,000 and 50,000 years. Dogs have been used for all sorts of purposes - war dogs, hunting dogs, guide dogs, etc.

By comparison "domestication" of the tiger goes back perhaps 2,000 years. So far "domestication" of tigers mainly relates to the entertainment industry - i.e. jumping through hoops, roaring, looking like fierce caged animals and eating gladiators (and the occasional zoo keeper apparently).

Did I forget - one is a dog the other is a cat... up to 300 kg cat mind you. Even if it did have the temperament and instincts of the common housecat I wouldn't want it anywhere near me.

[mynameis]

It's a bit hard to have sympathy for someone who chooses to work with large predatory animals for a living and then gets attacked by one. Very tragic for his family for sure, but I'm equally sure that they were well aware that his chosen occupation carried with it a certain amount of unpredictable risk. If you don't want to be a potential meal for a tiger, then don't get in a cage with it.

Hence the reason to shoot the big fella, irony is no one seems to express any concern over the mauled dead man but the tiger.

Carrying on almost as if it was his fault he got killed.

[Brett]

Oh, is that so?

The only difference between tigers and dogs being that dogs have been domesticated for somewhere between 10,000 and 50,000 years. Dogs have been used for all sorts of purposes - war dogs, hunting dogs, guide dogs, etc.

By comparison "domestication" of the tiger goes back perhaps 2,000 years. So far "domestication" of tigers mainly relates to the entertainment industry - i.e. jumping through hoops, roaring, looking like fierce caged animals and eating gladiators (and the occasional zoo keeper apparently).

Did I forget - one is a dog the other is a cat... up to 300 kg cat mind you. Even if it did have the temperament and instincts of the common housecat I wouldn't want it anywhere near me.

It is so. Because I said so.

I wasnt saying that they are the same. I was saying that you have to treat both the same. An animal that has been 'tamed' to whatever degree that then gets into its head that it likes to attach and kill people needs to be dealt with. Why does everyone cry foul because someone killed a large cat that went wild however when it is the likes of a dog (take pitbull for example as it is probably the most (unfairly) notorious dog) attacks and maims or kills someone, the same people call for its blood.

[imdying]

Carrying on almost as if it was his fault he got killed.

Of course it was his fault. He entered into a cage with a large predator. Darwinism at its finest.

[mynameis]

It is so. Because I said so.

I wasnt saying that they are the same. I was saying that you have to treat both the same. An animal that has been 'tamed' to whatever degree that then gets into its head that it likes to attach and kill people needs to be dealt with. Why does everyone cry foul because someone killed a large cat that went wild however when it is the likes of a dog (take pitbull for example as it is probably the most (unfairly) notorious dog) attacks and maims or kills someone, the same people call for its blood.

+1 Good to see someone out there with all the logical cylinders firing Brett

[mynameis]

Of course it was his fault. He entered into a cage with a large predator. Darwinism at its finest.

So if anyone else enters the cage again and gets killed then what?

The park should be closed and lions and tigers sent elsewhere aye?

[imdying]

An animal that has been 'tamed' to whatever degree that then gets into its head that it likes to attach and kill people needs to be dealt with.

It'll only kill people given opportunity.

Why does everyone cry foul because someone killed a large cat that went wild

Because it didn't 'go wild', it was alway wild... it's a large predatory cat FFS.

Fine, keep a big cat in a cage if that's what does it for you, but don't get in the cage with it, that's just asking to be dinner. I don't know if a big cat can have a 'bad day', but given that a single swipe from a big furry paw can kill a grown man, why the hell would you be retarded enough to take that chance? If you need to get near it, sedate the bugger and open the cage whilst it's asleep. Heck even then you'd want to be bloody sure it was properly sedated.

[imdying]

So if anyone else enters the cage again and gets killed then what?

Then what? Then nothing... problem has taken care of itself... another retard entered a cage with a large predatory animal an was eaten... well fuck me, who could've predicted that that might happen

The park should be closed and lions and tigers sent elsewhere aye?

No, they're a pretty rare animal, so I assume they need to breed them somewhere safe, just don't get into a cage with them in an unsedated state.

[sinfull]

+1 Good to see someone out there with all the logical cylinders firing Brett

+ 2 ! I blame the mother from hell ! I have no idea what the beef the mother has with the lion fella, but the very first attack prolly wouldn't have happened (where the guy got his legs torn) if craig bush was running it (prolly wouldn't have even been hired, as they would have had to make up numbers for the workload after bush was booted) Have to wonder if the male tiger, (being male and all and not as valuable to the breeding program as a female would be) would have been destroyed then and there or at the very least islolated from any human contact, if bush had a say !
Feel for the wife and child of the dude, but i say again, the writing was on the wall !

[sinfull]

The park should be closed and lions and tigers sent elsewhere aye?

Where exactly would be the Question ! That park is purpose built to house them in probably the best conditions (apart from the wild) is part of an international breeding programe ! It's politics that's destroying it !

[Mikkel]

It is so. Because I said so.

Of course dad, please don't hit me.

I wasnt saying that they are the same. I was saying that you have to treat both the same. An animal that has been 'tamed' to whatever degree that then gets into its head that it likes to attach and kill people needs to be dealt with. Why does everyone cry foul because someone killed a large cat that went wild however when it is the likes of a dog (take pitbull for example as it is probably the most (unfairly) notorious dog) attacks and maims or kills someone, the same people call for its blood.

Yes, we put down dogs that attack people - and to me it's not the dog that is the problem, but the owner. However, there's a tad more than 120 dogs left on the planet - last time I checked dogs hadn't even made the "may become threatened in the foreseeable future" stage. There's a slight difference between putting down an attack dog because it would take up resources to keep it alive and keeping a specimen of a very endangered species alive for breeding purposes.

If this tiger was known to have attacked a keeper already, what imdying is saying is the way to go. Don't go near it, it is able to kill you with a single swipe of its paw. If this tiger has indeed been used for entertaining zoo guests up until now, that is hugely irresponsible.

[imdying]

If this tiger was known to have attacked a keeper already, what imdying is saying is the way to go.

I'm not saying don't get in a cage with a known people muncher, I'm saying don't get in a cage with a potential people muncher. Those animals aren't house cats, and shouldn't be treated like they can be.