Bain, what's the answer going to be?

**MattRSK** · 5th June 2009, 18:02

Legal aid = $2.7 Million

**Drew** · 5th June 2009, 18:04

Originally Posted by marty

So on that theory, no-one should be denied bail.

Bail is granted to those, that a court deems not to be a danger to society. It has nothing to do with innocence.

And the only one who REALLY knows, is bain himself.

Originally Posted by marty

I doubt that he'll get compo - does everyone who gets found not guilty get it? would you be happy with a patched gang member being found not guilty getting compo for his trouble?

He spent thirteen years in jail, for a crime he has been found not to have commited. Minimum compensation would be minimum wage for those years. Then ACC will have to figure out what he should get for mental anguish.

There is at least one case I know of, where a guy escaping prison broke his arm. For that he got a lump sum pay out from ACC. This seems pretty bloody rough to me, but it comes under the one standard for everyone umbrella I guess.

**marty** · 5th June 2009, 18:05

Originally Posted by MattRSK

Legal aid = $2.7 Million

there's his payout.

**Mom** · 5th June 2009, 18:05

The defense team did a fantastic job, and created "reasonable doubt" in the mind of the jury that heard the case this time.

I wasn't on that jury, and have not heard all the evidence presented to the court. I have however, read and heard about this case over and over and over. Having said that I have only heard/read what has been previously filtered via what ever media presented it.

While I personally dont think this man Baine is completely innocent, based purely on my gut instinct I might add, I accept the verdict as it stands.

I really hope that this young man can recover from his undeniably shitty upbringing, his prison term for commiting one of the worst multiple murders this country has ever seen and the stress of having to go to trial yet again when the original verdict was quashed.

Think of all the money it has cost us, lets hope it does not cost us more!

**Sketchy_Racer** · 5th June 2009, 18:05

Originally Posted by MattRSK

Legal aid = $2.7 Million

What are you doing on here! Do you even have a bike!! (RG100!! here btw)

**Deano** · 5th June 2009, 18:05

Originally Posted by Oakie

The verdict leaves me uncomfortable.

I agree that the defence did a good job in demonstrating reasonable doubt.
I agree that with the prosecution being unable to prove beyond doubt that he did it ... he had to walk free.

Did I mention that my cousin was involved in Bain's legal defense in the very early stages? Yes. I feel uncomfortable about him walking free.

OK. Moving on now. He's free. I hope he has a good life and is allowed to contribute to society somehow and that not too many people jump on his coat-tails to make money or get publicity for themselves.

Is your cousin on facebook too ?

**MattRSK** · 5th June 2009, 18:06

Originally Posted by marty

there's his payout.

I guess you could say we all paid our part in proving his innocence.

**peasea** · 5th June 2009, 18:07

Originally Posted by Pedrostt500

The crown have been known to get it wrong in the past, Arthur Allen Tomas springs to mind.
Now alot of the times the crown gets it right, yes I still have faith in our justice system, it is not a perfect system but it is the one we have.
What we have to be careful of in these cases is trial by News Media.

It's the way of the world mate.

**98tls** · 5th June 2009, 18:07

Originally Posted by MattRSK

Legal aid = $2.7 Million

Wonder what its cost Karam?To be honest whilst i dont personally agree with the verdict (which means nothing) i am happy for Joe Karam as his support has been vindicated.

**MattRSK** · 5th June 2009, 18:08

Originally Posted by Sketchy_Racer

What are you doing on here! Do you even have a bike!! (RG100!! here btw)

Mate you know me. When there is piss to be taken i'm going to take the piss.

**Drew** · 5th June 2009, 18:08

Originally Posted by MattRSK

Legal aid = $2.7 Million

A comforting thing it is too.

I would need legal aid if I was charged with a crime, and it's good to know there isn't a limit on it.

**NDORFN** · 5th June 2009, 18:09

Good for him. The guy deserves a medal.

**Max Preload** · 5th June 2009, 18:13

Originally Posted by short-circuit

Hey calm down there. A finding of Not Guilty is not proof of innocence

Innocent until proven guilty. Not proven guilty = innocent.

**ynot slow** · 5th June 2009, 18:15

If compo is granted watch the hangers on jump into spotlight,he has a few original friends who stood by,Karam only seems to be prominant one,Best he grabs the dough and goes offshore,he has no family(not sure how whacko his aunties/uncles are)here.

Mind you if he gets compo say $3million,hope he pays some back to legal aid.

And if he didn't do it,his old man didn't,then because the cops decided DB was the culprit any evidence has gone,that means a mass murderer is about free.