Pita Sharples - just gotta love 'im, eh?

[popa griffin]

I reckon we should biff the treaty. Fuck that shit.

Theres A: No full blood maoris left.
B: No point to it anymore.

[Rayray401]

hmm...did pita sharples mean free tuition fee?...or open open entry and pay their own fees?..cos if its just open entry..then i dont need the problem..if they fail in NCEA..then the uni doesnt have the obligation to pass them in their uni course...means more money for uni..better equipment from uni doesnt it?

[Mom]

I reckon we should biff the treaty. Fuck that shit.

Theres A: No full blood maoris left.
B: No point to it anymore.

You are ignorant.

The Maori people were treated terribly by the colonial settlers, there is no argument there. The Treaty brought an end to the wars that were being fought. Peace reigned, because promises were made and agreed upon

Problem is the settlers were not true to their word in many ways. The Maori people were treated unfairly across a range of things. There has been a process to make good these wrongs. It has gone on and on, and a time limit has been placed on settling Treaty claims (thank goodness).

The issue of what is happening today with Maori families is nothing to do with the original treaty breaches, and the treaty as far as I am concerned has nothing to do with Pita Sharples saying Universities should take Maori on regardless.

It is swings and roundabouts really. For things to be equal we have to go through a cycle. If I was better at these computer things I sould show you what I mean, but picture this if you will.

Really unfair to one party is one side of the the scale, really unfair to the other party is the other side of the scale. Things will bounce back and fro until the scale settles about even. We are in an unfair to one party cycle, it will settle. Sooner, rather than later is my wish

[oldguy]

F**K yeah, should get free everything,
Anything to do with Pita Sharples/Maoris, will always windup all the know all experts on KB and bring out all the racist who say they are not

[Naki Rat]

Peta's half brained idea would really only make a difference to recent school leavers as anybody, brown, white or chatreuse can enroll at university after they turn 20. They then just have to prove they've got the brains by sitting and passing entry level exams.

Been there, done that

[Elysium]

A political party based on race is rascist.

[Argyle]

Mäori, white, asian, negro or arab. All of us is equal, no one should have more rights then the other.
Just fucking stupid from the beginning to let Mäories have more rights then any other of the New Zealand population.

Can´t understand how Mäories are treated different, those bastards would still be fighting with sticks and living in tree cottages if the English did not decide to explore the islands.

[jaymzw]

Peta's half brained idea

HEY MATE!!!!

Lets get this sorted its Pita

Geez talk about being racially insensitive

[Elysium]

Can´t understand how Mäories are treated different, those bastards would still be fighting with sticks and living in tree cottages if the English did not decide to explore the islands.

Not true. The Americans could have got here first and then there would hardly be any maories because they would almost kill them to extinction like the native American indians. Or maybe the Chinese(if they're communist back then) get here and the maori population ends up enslaved in shoe factories.

Anyway if the English didn't come, then someone else would.

[popa griffin]

You are ignorant.

The Maori people were treated terribly by the colonial settlers, there is no argument there. The Treaty brought an end to the wars that were being fought. Peace reigned, because promises were made and agreed upon

Exactly. Any need for the treaty now?

Fuck no. What happend happend. Its well in the past.

I heard several maoris saying, sure maoris back in the day were canibals, but that was ages ago, we have changed now. Let it go.

Now if only they could take a leaf from there own book.

Everything to do with maoris getting free hand outs is cause of the rights of the treaty. The treaty should have died along with the people who signed it. Or soon after they died.


Bringing it back and back and back is just stupid. Especially when your not full fucking blooded.

[pete376403]

Sounds like the "affirmative action" that exists in the states.

Re medical school, I believe Paul Holmes wife (at the time) Hine Elder, got into med school on account of her "maoriness"

And another thing I heard tonight in the same vein - the "three strikes" debate about prison sentences. Some academic name of Solomon claims "my people" (love how they claim to speak for all maori) will oppose this because it will unequally affect them. Shit mate, if they don't do the crime... Or is he saying that maori are somehow genetically disposed to fail and thus need to turn to crime to get by?

[oldguy]

I reckon we should biff the treaty. Fuck that shit.

Theres A: No full blood maoris left.
B: No point to it anymore.

Funny you say that, because the colour of my skin dictates how others judge me.

If ever someone describes or points me out is. That's him the ........... fella

[pete376403]

Not true. The Americans could have got here first and then there would hardly be any maories because they would almost kill them to extinction like the native American indians. Or maybe the Chinese...(snip)

Chinese DID get here first - maori DNA has been traced back to Taiwan

[Bladeslapper109]

Pita sharples is an absolute idiot... And he is the face of the maori people

[MisterD]

Anyway if the English didn't come, then someone else would.

Just like one of those civilisation type computer games - if you're still at the "hitting each other with rocks and the winner eats the loser" stage when blokes with guns turn up - you're fucked.

...and as far as Pita's opinion is concerned, well he's obviously reasoned that if all the last 30 years of education policy has achieved is the devaluation of the graduate degree, why not go the whole bloody hog and give 'em away for turning up (if they don't do that already for some subjects...)