HR companies/people?

**Oakie** · 22nd June 2009, 10:23

Originally Posted by short-circuit

Go on then Oakie, you demonstrate the "value you add" to your business and KBers can decide whether they think you "should be kept on in your current role".

Well this'll be interesting. I'll need to wait until tonight though because I need to spend my work time today processing the payroll. (unless you'd accept that as my response?)

**Shaun S** · 22nd June 2009, 10:34

Originally Posted by Oakie

Well this'll be interesting. I'll need to wait until tonight though because I need to spend my work time today processing the payroll. (unless you'd accept that as my response?)

You are joking right?

Why would anyone in their right mind step up to such an abvious bating parade? It has nothing to do with him or KB what your value is to your employer, it is up to your employer. Or have I missed something?

Re the original question, I would say it is like every other profession in life - you have people who do it well and people who dont! It is up to the job seeker or employer to ensure they are not engaging with the latter.

**MisterD** · 22nd June 2009, 10:35

Originally Posted by short-circuit

It's job that bosses used to do themselves -

Yeah, 'cos obviously a Production Manager (for instance) wants to spend time doing all that stuff, whilst complying with employment and health and safety legislation rather than, you know actually managing production.

**Headbanger** · 22nd June 2009, 10:39

Originally Posted by Shaun S

You are joking right?

Why would anyone in their right mind step up to such an obvious baiting parade?

Entertainment.

**Shaun S** · 22nd June 2009, 10:47

Originally Posted by Headbanger

Entertainment.

So this was not a serious question/thread and all this slightly rabid behavior, slagging a certain profession and dueling to see who has the fastest wit is just the way people on this site entertain themselves?

And here I was thinking we were having a discussion around a valid question the original poster made. Fuck me!

**Headbanger** · 22nd June 2009, 10:52

Originally Posted by Shaun S

So this was not a serious question/thread and all this slightly rabid behaviour, slagging a certain profession and duelling to see who has the fastest wit is just the way people on this entertain themselves?

And here I was thinking we were having a discussion around a valid question the original poster made. Fuck me!

I'm sure there is room for both. No one has to give credence to slagging by replying to it if they don't want to.And if they do wish to...Then thats their right to reply.

And 10 points to you for trying to uphold standards in a thread designed to nominate HR persons as retarded.

**short-circuit** · 22nd June 2009, 10:53

Originally Posted by Oakie

Well this'll be interesting. I'll need to wait until tonight though because I need to spend my work time today processing the payroll. (unless you'd accept that as my response?)

That's fine by me - take your time.

I'll help you in consulting capacity: You should look into hiring a payroll clerk.

**short-circuit** · 22nd June 2009, 10:55

Originally Posted by MisterD

Yeah, 'cos obviously a Production Manager (for instance) wants to spend time doing all that stuff, whilst complying with employment and health and safety legislation rather than, you know actually managing production.

Yeah - better to streamline your workforce instead so you can employ a middle management structure. They you can do even less than you already do and reward yourself with a big fat payrise.

No bonus points for anyone so far - most disappointing

**short-circuit** · 22nd June 2009, 10:59

Originally Posted by Shaun S

slagging a certain profession

1, I would go so far as to call it a profession.

2, Half their job involves finding reasons to make others redundant - lets scrutinize their actual value then we can decide if they are worth keeping on.

**Eng_dave** · 22nd June 2009, 12:00

Originally Posted by cowpoos

Is it just me...or are HR [recruitment type] companies/departments...full of really dumb people!!

Is that the reason Employers can't find good staff?? because they hire retards to do it for them?? and when I say retards...I am actually being really nice!

The only thing im going to say id there is a reason they get other people a job but never them selfs a job.

**MisterD** · 22nd June 2009, 12:42

Originally Posted by short-circuit

Yeah - better to streamline your workforce instead so you can employ a middle management structure. They you can do even less than you already do and reward yourself with a big fat payrise.

No bonus points for anyone so far - most disappointing

I'm sensing some bitterness here - do you have a history with a DCM in it?

**thecharmed01** · 22nd June 2009, 13:10

Luckily for me I have never had to use an HR company for work, I've only ever had jobs through word of mouth and being poached by other companies.

I have been on the receiving end of a rant just a few days ago though, from someone I know who was hunting for a new job.
She signed up with a very well known agency thinking it was a good idea and submitted her CV, did the interviews and went through the motions.
They called her asking if they could submit her CV for a specific role, and she was very excited and said of course. Recruiter told her they would call her in a few days with whether she was getting an opportunity to interview for said role.
5 days later......
Friend 1 bumps into Friend 2 (non-riding buddy) who works for specific company and excitedly tells her that she has applied for the job with her firm, through XXX Recruitment Agency. Friend 2 gets all excited and offers to recommend her since she knows she has applied.
Friend 2 goes back to work, then calls Friend 1 to tell her this;
Recruitment agency were NOT contracted to fill this role.
All CV's submitted by Recruitment Agency were in fact returned to sender and not even looked at. Automatic rejection.
Friend 1 was devastated but Friend 2 was onto it!
Friend 2 gets an emailed copy of the CV and submits it to her boss as a personal recommendation, and Friend 1 now works there too as of yesterday!! WOOT for them both!!!!

Add to that, Friend 1 STILL hasnt been contacted by Recruiter to tell her the position has been filled - or that she wasnt going to be interviewed!! LOL

I told her she should actually do something about that, because I think its shite that they can get away with getting peoples hopes up for interview possibilities when they dont even have the right to submit applications!!!
Bloody rude if you ask me and nasty!

**munterk6** · 22nd June 2009, 13:24

Last year the company I work for decided to make a position in the workshop redundant 'due to the current economic climate'.
HR lady came to a meeting in the smoko room and discussed options. We all agreed on each tech losing 4 hours a week which added up to 40 hours, the equivalent of one tech going.
Here's the irony of it all....two weeks later the HR lady was made redundant.
I saw her in tears in her car, poor girl, she was actually very nice and easy to get along with.
Its like hiring a hitman to take out a marked man, then taking out the hitman to clean up the mess.