Honda VS Suzuki $$$

[Maha]

I heard a little while ago from a suzuki fan/rider that ''you'll probably find that GSXR's are owned by lower income owners''....maybe Suzuki realize this and compensate?

[jafar]

I heard a little while ago from a suzuki fan/rider that ''you'll probably find that GSXR's are owned by lower income owners''....maybe Suzuki realize this and compensate?

Hoondah is pricing itself off the market for muppets?

Or is it that Spewzuki & Kwakasucki are dumping last years models on the market

[White trash]

Hoondah is pricing itself off the market for muppets?

Or is it that Spewzuki & Kwakasucki are dumping last years models on the market

K9 Suzuki is actually a newer model than the Honda. Go figure.

[SPman]

K9 $19700 ride away
CBR1000 Repsol scheme $19,999-$21990 ride away. or $18990 in Tasmania.........

and we earn more here..........

although the roads are crapperer....

[Slyer]

K9 $19700 ride away
CBR1000 Repsol scheme $19,999-$21990 ride away. or $18990 in Tasmania.........

Yes... why is that?

[AllanB]

Honda NZ has been loading up prices this year - I even got a letter early this year telling me to trade in now as they will be having another price rise mid year (sounds like it has arrived).

Wise dealers got orders in early and held prices down (CB Predator as an example, started at $19 - up to $22 some places).

I am told one big advantage Suzuki has is there is no middle-man in NZ - it's pretty much factory direct with just a small NZ head office.

Honda has in many ways shot themselves - if I had the $ and was indeed interested in a new bike (naked of course) the Predator is right there with Ducati & Triumphs models offering tempting alternatives.

I look forward to updating my Hornet in a few years time with the glut of unsold Predators going dirt cheap at the remaining Honda dealers.

[p.dath]

Honda NZ has been loading up prices this year - I even got a letter early this year telling me to trade in now as they will be having another price rise mid year (sounds like it has arrived).

Wise dealers got orders in early and held prices down (CB Predator as an example, started at $19 - up to $22 some places).

I am told one big advantage Suzuki has is there is no middle-man in NZ - it's pretty much factory direct with just a small NZ head office.

Honda has in many ways shot themselves - if I had the $ and was indeed interested in a new bike (naked of course) the Predator is right there with Ducati & Triumphs models offering tempting alternatives.

I look forward to updating my Hornet in a few years time with the glut of unsold Predators going dirt cheap at the remaining Honda dealers.

The crap thing with that though is if you need parts you often have to wait for them to be flown into the country, as opposed to them arriving on the courier the next business day.

I've tried both models, and definately prefer local NZ distribution. The small saving you get with direct delaers is not worth everything that you loose after your purchase.

[cowpoos]

Sometimes it's easy to focus on what you get immediately and forget about everything your going to need. For example a higher price may reflect a vendor stocking spare parts in NZ or perhaps a better warranty.

NO!!

[Swoop]

The crap thing with that though is if you need parts you often have to wait for them to be flown into the country, as opposed to them arriving on the courier the next business day.

Quite a few companies do not hold stock in NZ anymore. Air freight overnight from Aus is very common.

[mynameis]

ten char

[merv]

While I like Hondas, I have never understood Blue Wing Honda and its marketing strategies. Those my age will remember how back in the 70's Honda took over from Suzuki as the sales leader for a few years and then slowly but surely Blue Wing Honda seemed to just let its advantage disappear. I had thought with the latest management there was a change for the better, but trying to sell with this price disadvantage is just plain ridiculous.

I don't understand why Honda don't just take back the importing and do it themselves through Honda NZ and do the old "price promise" thing they do with the cars http://www.honda.co.nz/site/opp/index.html. With no big market in fleet sales for bikes there is none of this competing with Toyota and its 28% discounts to fleet buyers that Honda Cars basically dealt to by not fighting in that market. With bikes it is much more straightforward.

[danchop]

The crap thing with that though is if you need parts you often have to wait for them to be flown into the country, as opposed to them arriving on the courier the next business day.

I've tried both models, and definately prefer local NZ distribution. The small saving you get with direct delaers is not worth everything that you loose after your purchase.

i think what he means is ,suzuki nz is owned by the big suzuki japan so they do anything to be market leader in sales

[geoffm]

Honda's silly pricing is why I have a SV dather than the VFR800 i nearly bought - $5k difference was to much.

IMO Triumph priceing is even more out there.

[SixPackBack]

Honda's silly pricing is why I have a SV dather than the VFR800 i nearly bought - $5k difference was to much.

IMO Triumph priceing is even more out there.

There is a discernible difference between Triumph/Ducati for instance and the Jap four, and unfortunately the jap bikes are so similar, price often becomes the deciding factor

[shafty]

Interesting discussion - I certainly saw some huge variation when I bought the ST1300 - I think Honda DO trade on their reputation for quality, and probably aren't so worried about being a sales leader rather than maintaining a healthy GP (Gross profit), after all, anyone can lead a sales race and lose $$