250 production racing.

**Ivan** · 30th May 2005, 18:34

Originally Posted by Kickaha

protest the machine or shut up,simple isn't it?

Im not winging just stating that it wrecks the class why do you have a guilty concionse

**Kickaha** · 30th May 2005, 18:49

Originally Posted by Ivan

Im not winging just stating that it wrecks the class why do you have a guilty concionse

I don't race in that class,but if you "know" some one is cheating and do nothing about it you're as guilty as they are

**FROSTY:Me** · 30th May 2005, 19:20

The funny thing is when we last had proddy racing some guys were clearly on cheater bikes. It really diddnt make stuff all difference -it was like -There goes frosty and KK on their "cough" production bikes.
And now were into the real racing.
With feilds of 40-50 bikes noone really cared less--unless they were chasing a national title.

**nsrpaul** · 30th May 2005, 20:16

mmmm , prody class , i'd be keen

**gav** · 30th May 2005, 23:05

Originally Posted by FROSTY

The funny thing is when we last had proddy racing some guys were clearly on cheater bikes. It really diddnt make stuff all difference -it was like -There goes frosty and KK on their "cough" production bikes.
And now were into the real racing.
With feilds of 40-50 bikes noone really cared less--unless they were chasing a national title.

He He, mate of mine bought a RG250mk3 Gamma like this

from Wellington Motorcycles many many years ago, it was claimed to be Bob Toomey and Robert Holdens practice 250 proddy bike. Damn it was fast, had some , umm interesting carb and airbox, and exhaust mods etc though as well (for a production bike

)

**chaos rider** · 29th June 2009, 14:48

well just waiting on some fairing changes and good tyres the chaos hyo is ready to go..

this class is cheap as chips and much easier for a first timer to get into then the other classes out there. all i can say is when and where

**oyster** · 30th June 2009, 10:14

WHEN: King of Levels and King of Ruapuna 2009 Starting 18th July
WHERE: Levels and Ruapuna

250 twin production 4stroke will run in Streetstock. We want to get on with it straight away to trial this bike spec and then when the rules come in on Jan 1st they'll be all sorted.

**scracha** · 30th June 2009, 12:30

Originally Posted by gav

Stock standard 250 twins road racing? guess it'll be a good time to hit the hotdog stands I suppose......

Your loss. Watching 30 x 250 twins slipstreaming each other to get every last bit of speed should lead to good close racing.

**Morcs** · 30th June 2009, 12:42

But the new 250s now are poo. Not just the power.
The chassis, geometry and suspension are all budget.

Would upgrading suspension be allowed?

The IL4's are somewhat designed for the track, these new learner bikes simply arent - its the same as suggesting say, a V-strom class...

Though I totally agree with the concept frosty.

**Squiggles** · 30th June 2009, 13:14

MNZ trawling through your old posts Frosty?

**Kittyhawk** · 30th June 2009, 13:16

So for a newbie racer what would it involve....

Buy bike 250cc

Strip unwanted accessories off, indicators etc

Pay membership

Buy tire warmers

Have licence - (any licence or has to be full?)

Attend race meets - go hard

Have spare parts and spare tires

Another person as pit crew

Is there a checklist that can be posted up??

Would it be like the drags at Meremere? anyone can rock on up pay fee to race and pose, pass scrutineering and away ya go?

**CookMySock** · 30th June 2009, 14:00

Just the differences in suspension and curb weight between these bikes will make it into one-bike race immediately, so why not do that to begin with?

Why not just race Hyo 250's ? They are cheap to buy and cheap to crash and fix, and they have a strong frame so you can screw up real bad and still have a bike.

Steve

**FROSTY:Me** · 1st July 2009, 15:34

Holey moley-4 years on and its happening --plant a little seed.........

**Robert Taylor** · 1st July 2009, 18:41

Originally Posted by N4CR

I asked that at a bike shop and got told they would cost roughly $9000 to bring back those sort of bikes back onto the once deflated market... now it has picked up a little apparently.

Would you want to learn on a 9k bike that is only 250cc

?

It costs just about as much to make a 250cc inline four as a 1000cc inline four because its the same amount of components. So they have to cut lots of corners and I would say manufacturers margins are extremely thin. Little wonder that market sector only really survives in markets where there are graduated licensing laws and LOTs of customers.
You really also have to wonder about the wisdom of racing what are in most instances commuter bikes, they are not made for racing and in the long or even short term they are fragile. SV650s are a case in point.
There already is an entry level class of affordable proper racing bikes, 125cc. Great class, great racing and it teaches the riders and crew more skills than just riding.

**Robert Taylor** · 1st July 2009, 18:43

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

Just the differences in suspension and curb weight between these bikes will make it into one-bike race immediately, so why not do that to begin with?

Why not just race Hyo 250's ? They are cheap to buy and cheap to crash and fix, and they have a strong frame so you can screw up real bad and still have a bike.

Steve

No, one make classes are a big yawn and racing NEEDS all manufacturers to be interested.