Settling Maori claims. Someone explain.

[scumdog]

Its true maori children were given the strap in primary schools in the 1960s for speaking maori. Seems hard to believe today.

Just like children were beaten for being left-handed.

[Deano]

Like getting beaten for speaking their only known language at school?, this happened right up to the 60's yes this reflects the culture of today as our modern PC world spends millions to promote the Maori language......good one ignorant Europeans!!

Things have changed a fair bit since then Brett, like getting spat on at the local Taita Dairy by some Maori kids....

I got beaten up for siding with the Maori kids at primary school, my kids are part Maori but for FS, don't tell me things are so one sided these days....

[doc]

...........the court says they have a right to have the claim

Thats the problem. No one seems to have any faith in the decisions of the courts anymore. Just ask a policeman....or a victim.

[Genestho]

For the sake of balance I'm going to say there are extreme non-maori liberals consumed with white guilt. In their eyes everything Maori is good, pakeha bad. Nonsense.

Maori are paternalistic and nepotistic giving jobs and favours to family and friends first. That's no help to our perceptions. It looks like corruption.

The much vaunted "whanau" concept where the wider family care for each other has been shown to be hollow so many times. Witness the people around the Kahui twins who knew something was wrong in that household but did nothing.

As is too often the case, I'm glad you put those two sentences together! And how many more cases are like this?
The list goes on, and on, and on.
I'd like to think there is opportunity to turn these situations and stats around with the Maori Party, for the sake of the culture and kiwi's in general, they need to step up. The whanau concept needs to embraced from the top down, let's start taking care of the stuff impacting on the community as a whole.

[Genestho]

Just like children were beaten for being left-handed.

That's right!

[Quasievil]

You see. When you say institutional racism and underclassing, I am one of those that have perpetrated this crime, either by my actions or my inactions.
In all sincerity, I genuinely don't know how I did this. I know I didn't mean to, so it is important to me to understand how it happened.

I dunno old fella you tell me but you are a NZr so you can go two ways 1/ fuck the Maori.........or 2/ let get on with it and move on as fast as we bloody can

Im in group two.

[Quasievil]

Things have changed a fair bit since then Brett, like getting spat on at the local Taita Dairy by some Maori kids....

I got beaten up for siding with the Maori kids at primary school, my kids are part Maori but for FS, don't tell me things are so one sided these days....

So Deano me ole china, tell us how you can satisfy the situation to an agreeable conclusion to both parties, the process as it is seems to be one option whats another ?

[short-circuit]

I dunno old fella you tell me but you are a NZr so you can go two ways 1/ fuck the Maori.........or 2/ let get on with it and move on as fast as we bloody can

Im in group two.

How come the Act voter is talking like he's got a social conscience?

[Elysium]

Is there a relationship to Maori settlements and Maori over representation in NZ crime stats?

Blame the "maori warrior gene" ?

Anyhow my $2.50 worth. I think all claims should be settled once in for all, sign another treaty saying yes all is good and "are we all happy now?" and finaly put an end to all this "gimme money I'm maori!" crap. If the chinese migrants can look after themselves to this day without handouts, I'm sure maoris can too. They just need to change their behavour and make it on their own.

Though I still think the Maori party should be made illegal as I can't understand the need for racialy based parties and they seem to have too many extremists and idiots like the Green party.

[scumdog]

That's right!

No. left!

Dummy

[Deano]

How hard is it, to settle the current disputes and move on once and for all. Why should'nt there be an expectation to resolve things finally, once and for all. Are we too stupid to be abe to do this, or too many private agendas at stake ?

No more arguments, all previous grievances sorted out once and for all, then, lets work as one people for the better good of the country.

Yeah Right.......

[Genestho]

Though I still think the Maori party should be made illegal as I can't understand the need for racialy based parties and they seem to have too many extremists and idiots like the Green party.

I might've agreed with that a few years ago, but the culture needs representing, and whoever has chosen to represent the culture needs to be accountable, and activate positive change.

[scumdog]

How hard is it, to settle the current disputes and move on once and for all. Why should'nt there be an expectation to resolve things finally, once and for all. Are we too stupid to be abe to do this, or too many private agendas at stake ?

No more arguments, all previous grievances sorted out once and for all, then, lets work as one people for the better good of the country.

Yeah Right.......

Wot 'e sed.

Only "yeah right" sounds about right..

[Genestho]

No. left!

Dummy

oh right!

[Deano]

So Deano me ole china, tell us how you can satisfy the situation to an agreeable conclusion to both parties, the process as it is seems to be one option whats another ?

Some sort of compromise, but it seems to be too much of a tug of war either way to meet in the middle.

The 'stats' are changing, for the good of Maori - that has to be an indication that current policies are working to some degree ?