Settling Maori claims. Someone explain.

**Solly** · 8th July 2009, 21:51

Originally Posted by Bonez

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Ooops.......didn't mean it like that

....P-ist as in [pissed]

**Bonez** · 8th July 2009, 22:07

Originally Posted by Solly

Ooops.......didn't mean it like that

....P-ist as in [pissed]

Figured as much but other sensitive souls may have needed varification.

**Solly** · 8th July 2009, 22:15

Originally Posted by Bonez

Figured as much but other sensitive souls may have needed varification.

Haha...there's plenty of those lurking on this thread

**Quasievil** · 8th July 2009, 22:41

Originally Posted by Bonez

As Katman mentioned about shades of grey. For goodness sake. This is KB. Plenty here that like the stir the pot to get a reaction. You don't know who posted the tags. What a pathethic rant.

As the above poster said it could be because of past experiances. I'll give you an example- The 4 major bullies at our primary school(which went up to form two at the time) were Maori. All are dead now due to their lifestyle/outlook on life. In saying that best freinds at primary school where also Maori, their perents refered to as uncle and aunty, as all the perents were refered to in our area at the time. These expereince stick with you for the rest of your life. I was also assulted by a Maori at work for no particular reason other than looking at him at the wrong time having the rightside of my cheek bone fractured and rotated 3mm from its original position. This wasn't the first time he'd assulted someone. A fellow Maori prior to that so his agression wasn't race specific. When asked what punishment I'd like him to have I stated anger management as jail was not going to change him one iota. He got 3 months anyway. A fair sentence for permanently altering my face? I'll let you decide. Do I blame all Maori for what happened- no. But it does make you wary. Same goes for other folk that have been put in the same situation.

Another example, my wifes wallet was was stolen along with her identity. Turns out it was some Maori chick. Police finally nabbed her. Took Connie 5 years to clear her name of the shit this bitch did, overdrafts, maxed out her credit card etc. It left a bitter taste in her mouth. With her carving, and the nice folk shes met since she's finaly gotten over it.

So whats the answer for the country as a country? do we use your examples conclude (like it looks you have) that Maori are all bad and shoot your fellow countrymen?
I dont tolerate anti NZr slander from anyone and bagging Maori is anti NZ, as the result of bagging Maori or any group and putting them down is not good for this country despite their over representation in negative stats.

The ONLY way to improve this countries race issue is to do what we are doing going through process and adjusting the social dependency on the government (taxpayer) handouts (for non Maori to)

sorry to many anti Maori on here, I think its sad but hey as pointed out its KB and I dont expect much better actually anyway so who gives a fuck what ya say lol......................anyway

**Bonez** · 8th July 2009, 22:45

Originally Posted by Quasievil

Do we use your examples conclude (like it looks you have) that Maori are all bad and shoot your fellow countrymen?

Humour me. Did you note the bit about "Do I blame all Maori for what happened-no"? Obviously not.

Experiances like I described do tend to harden the heart though. Whether you like it or not that is a reality.

The sooner the "greivence industry" is rapped up the better.

**98tls** · 8th July 2009, 22:49

Originally Posted by Quasievil

So whats the answer for the country as a country? do we use your examples conclude (like it looks you have) that Maori are all bad and shoot your fellow countrymen?
I dont tolerate anti NZr slander from anyone and bagging Maori is anti NZ, as the result of bagging Maori or any group and putting them down is not good for this country despite their over representation in negative stats.

The ONLY way to improve this countries race issue is to do what we are doing going through process and adjusting the social dependency on the government (taxpayer) handouts (for non Maori to)

sorry to many anti Maori on here, I think its sad but hey as pointed out its KB and I dont expect much better actually anyway so who gives a fuck what ya say lol......................anyway

Agreed i guess,just wish they would hurry the fuck up and be done with it all,for all concerned eh.To finally settle that issue would at last remove it as an excuse for both parties of extremists to prattle on.I really cant understand why its been dragged out for so long.

**u4ea** · 8th July 2009, 23:05

Originally Posted by Quasievil

I dont tolerate anti NZr slander from anyone and bagging Maori is anti NZ, as the result of bagging Maori or any group and putting them down is not good for this country despite their over representation in negative stats.

I feel bagged everytime Im called a Pakeha.

The ONLY way to improve this countries race issue is to do what we are doing going through process and adjusting the social dependency on the government (taxpayer) handouts (for non Maori to)

Agree there

sorry to many anti Maori on here, I think its sad but hey as pointed out its KB and I dont expect much better actually anyway so who gives a fuck what ya say lol......................anyway

I know my ancestory in NZ and it isnt respected by the majority of maori ,by them I am merely labelled Pakeha through their ignorance. I have some seriuosly close maori freinds . I am an aunty of my part maori neices and nefews (not too mention I am a great aunty). Get rid of the treaty .It is seperatist. One rule for everyone. Work hard play harder.
Have actually said to a maori chick who was hasseling a mate one night at a local bar..if I cut your throat your blood is the same colour as mine..

**98tls** · 8th July 2009, 23:09

Originally Posted by u4ea

I know my ancestory in NZ and it isnt respected by the majority of maori ,by them I am merely labelled Pakeha through their ignorance. I have some seriuosly close maori freinds . I am an aunty of my part maori neices and nefews (not too mention I am a great aunty). Get rid of the treaty .It is seperatist. One rule for everyone. Work hard play harder.
Have actually said to a maori chick who was hasseling a mate one night at a local bar..if I cut your throat your blood is the same colour as mine..

Out of interest what was her reply?Interesting post.

**u4ea** · 8th July 2009, 23:15

Originally Posted by 98tls

Out of interest what was her reply?Interesting post.

Ahem.. 5 maori chicks walked in to said bar and we offered the end of the table to them. When I went to the loo they would start on my mate.She was short and petite. I asked her why she was freaking out and she told me. So when she went to the loo I sat down next to the biggest chick and asked her how her night was going..then said what I said..all 5 of them got up and walked out.

**oldrider** · 9th July 2009, 00:43

Originally Posted by Quasievil

So whats the answer for the country as a country? do we use your examples conclude (like it looks you have) that Maori are all bad and shoot your fellow countrymen?
I dont tolerate anti NZr slander from anyone and bagging Maori is anti NZ, as the result of bagging Maori or any group and putting them down is not good for this country despite their over representation in negative stats.

The ONLY way to improve this countries race issue is to do what we are doing going through process and adjusting the social dependency on the government (taxpayer) handouts (for non Maori to)

sorry to many anti Maori on here, I think its sad but hey as pointed out its KB and I dont expect much better actually anyway so who gives a fuck what ya say lol......................anyway

To those who might be even slightly interested:

In my late twenties I lived in a predominantly Maori area and spent a lot of my time with fluent Maori speaking people.

Consequently I learned to understand Maori language, even though I couldn't speak it. (39 years ago, lost that ability now)

If everyone was speaking Maori, I would just reply in English, they noticed that I was doing it but it hadn't even really occurred to me!

They thought it was funny and on one occasion a Maori guy unknown to me, appeared and as I was the only Pakeha there he was going on about me in Maori.

Every body started laughing and he thought it was in support of what he was saying so he got bolder and bolder, the more they laughed.

It was the only such incident I ever experienced, it didn't bother me and I eventually had to leave to go to work.

He tried to hold the floor after I left and then they told him that I understood everything he was saying!

He realised that he was the butt of their laughter, not me, apparently he left soon after me.

These were fantastic people and really good friends, they thought it was a great joke.

Most of them sadly have moved on now but some of their children are still there.

The area was Waikaremona, inland from Wairoa in Hawkes Bay.

Some of the best times of my life were spent up there, things have sure changed in NZ but I still live in hope for our future!

**Bonez** · 9th July 2009, 00:52

Originally Posted by oldrider

Some of the best times of my life were spent up there, things have sure changed in NZ but I still live in hope for our future!

So true. Nice story. Dads grandparents lived in Wairoa. Best mates loved huhu grubs. Dammed if I could eat them now.

**The Stranger:Me** · 9th July 2009, 07:29

Originally Posted by Quasievil

sorry to many anti Maori on here,

Actually this seems to pretty much be the answer to any discussion on Maori for some reason. i.e. I don't agree with you ergo I am anti maori and thus racist.
If you "really" do want to get on as you proclaim then tollerate the views of others as you would expect of them.

**Genestho** · 9th July 2009, 07:39

Hmmmm, I agree with The stranger, we can't agree so therefore we're anti Maori? Come on mate?

Can someone in the know, please assure me that the claims process will sort out, the ills from 200 hundred years ago, that have direct violent impact on lives now?

Will it change anything? IMHO, I think not.
But hey, get it done so the festering sore starts to heal

**Quasievil** · 9th July 2009, 08:43

Originally Posted by T.G.W

Hmmmm, I agree with The stranger, we can't agree so therefore we're anti Maori? Come on mate?

Maori Bashin is something thats not agreeable period and its not a view, its evil and has been expressed and excercised in many countries around the world and Im fucked if I will tolerate it in my country.

opinions expressed here which are focused on solving the issues are fine but if they are laced with Anti Maori sediment then Its simply wrong and thats the end of it.

Anyway Im sure I am correct in saying that most of the tags and anti Maori shit expressed isnt believed by the writer, as I said its KB and its all about soapboxing until someone writes what they truly believe, and there is only a few of us in this category

**Finn** · 9th July 2009, 08:47

Originally Posted by Quasievil

Maori Bashin is something thats not agreeable period and its not a view, its evil and has been expressed and excercised in many countries around the world and Im fucked if I will tolerate it in my country.

When did it become your country white boy?