You are to be censored

**SPman** · 17th July 2009, 14:35

So, will Wikileaks be banned as well.
The Aussie first attempt at filtering was a total cockup, with a lot of normal and business sites being banned for noapparent reason. They didn't get any joy until wikileaks published the lists of banned sites - there were a lot that had nothing whatsoever to do with kiddie porn!
This is all about control, nothing else. Tell the populace it's for something nasty, then once the systems are in place, mission creep sets in and the "social tailoring" can begin!
Secrecy is bad - after all, if the government have nothing to hide, they have nothing to worry about!
Cunts!

**Genestho** · 17th July 2009, 19:08

As with anything, there will always be a bypass ie; a crack, a program, a cloak.

If this was about blocking kiddie porn sites, I'd be totally rapt, great!

Bring it on, but - shouldn't there be a system in place to investigate the operators, and SHUT the sites down? (I know, shut one down - ten more spring up - no doubt...but)
There are great programmes that prevent the little dudes from going where they shouldn't.

If sites are filtered, we adults, won't know, er....what we've missed???

I don't know if I'm comfortable with that!

I'm not so sure about this ISP censorship, I'd like to know more detail!!

**davereid** · 17th July 2009, 19:09

Originally Posted by SPman

So, will Wikileaks be banned as well.
The Aussie first attempt at filtering was a total cockup, with a lot of normal and business sites being banned for noapparent reason. They didn't get any joy until wikileaks published the lists of banned sites - there were a lot that had nothing whatsoever to do with kiddie porn!
This is all about control, nothing else. Tell the populace it's for something nasty, then once the systems are in place, mission creep sets in and the "social tailoring" can begin!
Secrecy is bad - after all, if the government have nothing to hide, they have nothing to worry about!
Cunts!

Already banned it would appear... wikileaks is not loading with telstraclear...

**Gremlin** · 17th July 2009, 19:29

Originally Posted by davereid

Already banned it would appear... wikileaks is not loading with telstraclear...

loading fine on Orcon...

but for the supporters, it obviously has kiddie porn aye?

Nice demonstration of how control will be easily implemented

**davereid** · 17th July 2009, 19:37

hmm, just reset my browser to use open dns, and it loads fine.

**pete376403** · 17th July 2009, 21:03

Worked for me without doing anything. Including this page http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Australian...nderage_images
Quote "The Australian government told a Senate estimates hearing this week that less than 32% of the country's secret internet censorship list is related to underage images"

**davereid** · 17th July 2009, 21:15

Yeah, good info.

I found the banned list easily with wikileaks, or at least the original list used by the first iteration of the software.

Here is one of the sites, which really is about cars.

http://prestige-cars.biz/Welcome.html

Interestingly Google has absolutely NO cache or records from the site. Almost as if it never existed. Yet it does.

A paranoid person would wonder if the google request was censored too !

**pete376403** · 17th July 2009, 21:31

Someone has probably described that site as car porn, with models less than 10 years old. After the description gets to be second or third hand it's morphed into kiddie porn