New Hazzard to add to the list...

[onearmedbandit]

Very true. Intent to cause an accident.

[stig]

I'll concede that I wasn't 22.22m behind, and sometimes at 50kph Iv'e been less than 27.78m behind people. (hands up who hasn't in auckland traffic) but I also wasn't 2.2m.

If they got out and said 'Thought a kid was running out' etc, then I would have apologised, etc.
no drama to be found there.

The admission that they deliberately did it is the difference here.
Though, I already knew this as I could see a long way up the otherwise empty street.

[onearmedbandit]

Regardless you were still too close. Even if you're in the right, it won't help fix a bent bike.

[Bend-it]

Yup... morally, both were wrong.

Legally, YOU are in the wrong. If you took him to the police, he'd just say he *thought* he saw something, (kid, cat, whatever) cross the road and braked.

It's always the fault of the vehicle behind for following too close. Doesn't matter if it's a car or bike.

[Deano]

Even worse, performing emergency braking with intent.

Hell yeah - the judge would throw the book at em.

[WuZards-Eugene]

Ride to the conditions, when the conditions change, increase your speed. In other words, if you're going to pass, then pass; dont wait around some idiot numchuck cage driving assholes bumper. Seeing as you ride in Auckland, you should be completely able to dodge metrosexual cage driving morons with ease.

Bummer about the accident tho, shoot the cunts I say.

[stig]

Yup... morally, both were wrong.

Legally, YOU are in the wrong. If you took him to the police, he'd just say he *thought* he saw something, (kid, cat, whatever) cross the road and braked.

It's always the fault of the vehicle behind for following too close. Doesn't matter if it's a car or bike.

Morally?? wtf?
I hardly had bad intensions following a car too close, vs them performing the braking with intent.

Legally, well YOU wouldn't rock up to the police and tell them you braked deliberately to teach someone a lesson would you?

Regardless, both sins can only go bad for the bike in this case. So lesson learned for me.
Would be nice though if people didn't have reckless disregard for other people in the name of their personal pissoffs and egos.
I know my intensions were never bad and I don't see how a rational person could ever interpret it to be.
I think there are plenty of angry pricks out there just looking for an excuse to act out, and I got unlucky.
Im will to bet they'd have tried something else if they saw me starting to overtake as well.

[Mystic13]

The deal is real easy on this one.

The car would be charged with dangerous driving. What they did is illegal.

As for the people shouting you must stop in time in reality we never expect a car that breaks will come to a complete stop for no reason and many people would initially slow and lose some gap before having an "Oh Shit" realisation.

I appreciate as a car driver a headlight straight in your mirror ain't fun and don't like it. Bikes always appear on top of you when following. I can understand cars being concerned.

So Stig did you hit him?

Personally it's better just to let it go and be more aware.

[MDR2]

And to the hard as nails crew that say 'just farkin overtake the carnt!' something else to take into consideration is...

are they travelling at less than the speed limit for a reason... ie are they looking for a driveway and are they likely to turn infront of you as your going around them... too many variables too calculate out there... just chill the fuck out and enjoy life.

[Mom]

Ever experienced the situation where you are stopped behind a car at an intersection? Imagine if you will, you are turning left. You are watching the traffic and the car in front. All of a sudden the way becomes clear and the car starts off, so do you. You are looking right to cover the idiot that appears out of nowhere and miss the fact the the car in front has had second thoughts and stopped again.

You are taking off into a stationery vehicle! You stop! You dont collide, you simply stop. It was close, but no harm done.

If you cant stop to avoid colliding with the vehicle in front you are too close, or travelling too fast.

If you scare someone into braking hard to teach you a lesson then you really are travelling too close.

[Mom]

The deal is real easy on this one.

The car would be charged with dangerous driving. What they did is illegal.

As for the people shouting you must stop in time in reality we never expect a car that breaks will come to a complete stop for no reason and many people would initially slow and lose some gap before having an "Oh Shit" realisation.

I appreciate as a car driver a headlight straight in your mirror ain't fun and don't like it. Bikes always appear on top of you when following. I can understand cars being concerned.

So Stig did you hit him?

Personally it's better just to let it go and be more aware.

I think you might find that you will receive an infringement notice for failing to stop in the distance required, or something similar. There is no black and white around this. If you hit someone that has stopped you are at fault. Learned this the hard way once. Cost $75 as I recall. Came around a blind bend on the open road to find chaos in front. Almost, but not quite stopped. The poor bastard that hit us was closer to the blind corner, he did not stand a chance. We both got tickets for failure to stop. The idiot car that casued the mayhem was charged with dangerous driving, it cost him his license.

Talked to the cop about the situation, he agreed it sucked to get a ticket in that circumstance, but...

[stig]

So Stig did you hit him?

Personally it's better just to let it go and be more aware.

No, I did hit something, kinda regreted that quick as I noticed a school kid in the back after that. Hopefully it was a one off and not the norm.

Agree, didn't kill me so a good reminder to be alert and expect anything.

[Mom]

No, I did hit something, kinda regreted that quick as I noticed a school kid in the back after that. Hopefully it was a one off and not the norm.

Agree, didn't kill me so a good reminder to be alert and expect anything.

3 out of 4 eh?

[Rayray401]

Well, legally you would still be wrong for following too close, but you could complain to the police for the cage driving dangerously cant you? personally i'd just ride on eh, too many arsehole drivers in auckland these days anyway.

[stig]

If you scare someone into braking hard to teach you a lesson then you really are travelling too close.

Scare? that they wern't

3 out of 4 eh?

yeah, shying away from expanding on that.

If some people are happy to be ramed of the road every time someone thinks they make a mistake, then, well...