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**YellowDog** · 31st July 2009, 20:49

These people have died through their own missadventure.

They were ignorant to a basic fact and I would say that this is very sad indeed.

I am not happy about referring to these dead people as stupid. It is totally disrespectful. They may have been good people in many ways. They may have had tallents that others do not have. We don't know the facts and to label them in this way is basically saying that they deserved to die. I doubt their kids will ever agree with that.

I also doubt anyone on here will be honest enough to admit to NOT knowing that outdoor heaters are for outdoor usage only and this is for a very good reason.

I hope that some or many will learn from this tradgedy.

**Winston001** · 31st July 2009, 21:23

Originally Posted by pzkpfw

There was one where 4 guys stuck in a car overnight somewhere like Arthurs Pass used a camp stove for heat. They never woke up.

Sad.

Stupid, but frankly I can see how it could happen. It's not that obviously dumb, nor are some of the things we are told are dangerous (101 km/hr!!) always that dangerous.

Originally Posted by Trudes

My thoughts exactly. The thing on the radio that I heard said that the couple died due to carbon dioxide (or whatever gas it is, wasn't really listening, didn't really care) poisoning..... Or due to being stupid. I feel sorry for their kids.

Not stupid, just wanting to be warm. This is such a sad story and I feel for the poor couple who died and their bereft children.

You can buy any number of gas heaters for your house, why should a patio heater be any different?? Same gas used. Ok, we now know the inside ones have a safety device but many many people will have no idea.

Even people who know about this stuff get caught. Three DOC staff died in a tent on the Chathams a few years ago because a gas cylinder leaked.

Lets have compassion for this family.

**Naki Rat** · 31st July 2009, 21:44

Originally Posted by Dave Lobster

So why do we let them breed? Stupid breeds stupid..

Not so much that we let them breed so much as pay them to by way of the DPB

**rainman** · 31st July 2009, 22:01

Originally Posted by Dave Lobster

So why do we let them breed? Stupid breeds stupid..

Because no-one gave you the right to stop them.

Originally Posted by short-circuit

Actually genetics don't work that way...

That, too.

**Trudes** · 31st July 2009, 22:52

Originally Posted by Winston001

Not stupid, just wanting to be warm. This is such a sad story and I feel for the poor couple who died and their bereft children.

You can buy any number of gas heaters for your house, why should a patio heater be any different?? Same gas used. Ok, we now know the inside ones have a safety device but many many people will have no idea.

Even people who know about this stuff get caught. Three DOC staff died in a tent on the Chathams a few years ago because a gas cylinder leaked.

Lets have compassion for this family.

Oh I do have compassion for their family, as I said I feel sorry for their kids. However if I'm cold I put on some
more clothes or have a hot shower and get into bed, not bring the patio heater inside. I bet there's a bloody great big warning somewhere on those things warning about them not to be used indoors. And while we're on the subject.... Why the hell do people have those things? What is the point? If you're outside and it's cold, why not go inside instead of trying to warm up outside? It's like having a dehumidifier going with the doors open!

**SMOKEU** · 31st July 2009, 23:12

Originally Posted by Slicksta

but really your trusting your life with something that has come out of a random factory in china not for me.

I'm sure a lot of our bike parts were made in China.

**Indiana_Jones** · 1st August 2009, 00:47

Originally Posted by PrincessBandit

With the cost of power bills it's not too surprising that people resort to foolish measures to keep warm. Especially somewhere as bloody freezing as Taumarunui!

Harden the fuck up!

-Indy

**pete376403** · 1st August 2009, 21:22

Originally Posted by nosebleed

+1 This's a much sadder fact. Gotta say there are much more deserving recipients of Darwins Law.

It wan't the appliance itself that was the issue, its the LPG. Same result would have occured from using a LPG heater in a closed room

Maybe not. A heater designed for indoor use will have a low oxygen sensor . A heater designed for outside use only will not.

**wickle** · 1st August 2009, 21:38

Originally Posted by pete376403

Maybe not. A heater designed for indoor use will have a low oxygen sensor . A heater designed for outside use only will not.

Thru work we fill LPG bottles daily, as for sensors on heaters for low levels first time Ive heard about them, personally I would not use a portable gas heater.