Who is going to give to Telethon?

[Grahameeboy]

as long as homes ok , school doesnt really matter.

they need to make some kind of new organisation that goes into every home that has a child on this 3 a day plan.'

and find out why the parents cannot give there children shoes, and lunch,

sorry duno if im on right path (im usaly not :P) but pissed me off watching it last night, IMO **

Well they have to buy smokes, beers and feed the pit bull........

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sorry duno if im on right path (im usaly not :P)

Na. Go play on the motorway - the grown ups are having a conversation

[James Deuce]

Um didn't you try to tell me before this has nothing to do with politics?

The sort of people who go for DHB positions REALLY SUCK.

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The sort of people who go for DHB positions REALLY SUCK.

I don't doubt that for a minute

[JimO]

Right wingers in New Zealand have really moved on - from outright denial that poverty exists here to blaming the poor for the failures of their system (promoting the myth of the Undeserving Poor)

i give money to several organisations that look after sick kids, make a wish foundation being one of them but there is no way i would give any money to prop up fucken deadbeats that have a baby assembly line for the benifet money then dont look after them properly. Schools feeding kids is another conjob if the parents dont feed them, remove them from the home and stop the money supply. is there poverty in NZ sure there is, but do the undeserving poor live in a government supplied house, hold their hand out for free money, dont make any effort to help themselves, spend their benifet on booze and smokes.i say fuckem let them starve to death. Its time the benifet was replaced with a voucher system so the money thats ment for food get spent on food

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The sort of people who go for DHB positions REALLY SUCK.

What's your point though?


Mine is an observation that NZers (primarily influenced by conservative right wing attitudes) have moved from denying poverty is an issue in "God's own" (a reality that can no longer be overlooked), to blaming the poor for being poor (rather than examining the social, economic and political environment that is responsible for creating these disparities).

[Rodney007]

Na. Go play on the motorway - the grown ups are having a conversation

OK IL GO PLAY ON THE MOTORWAY
hahahahahahahahaha ....idiot

[Grahameeboy]

What's your point though?


Mine is an observation that NZers (primarily influenced by conservative right wing attitudes) have moved from denying poverty is an issue in "God's own" (a reality that can no longer be overlooked), to blaming the poor for being poor (rather than examining the social, economic and political environment that is responsible for creating these disparities).

Surely NZ is not in denial......

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OK IL GO PLAY ON THE MOTORWAY
hahahahahahahahaha ....idiot

Ok keep playing with the mirror then - just stop interrupting the adults

[PrincessBandit]

What? How does Kids Can (a children's cancer victim support charity) fall under the heading of "Fighting Poverty"? How does pokies and Woodstock have anything to do with it?

Sorry, I don't know what I've missed - a whole lot obviously - I thought the cancer charity was CanTeen. I haven't heard anything about cancer fundraising through this telethon.


Doesn't seem to have quite the same atmosphere of the "old" telethons, but then I recall them starting to get a big 'yawn' by the time they finished being done in the early 90's (think the last one was about 16 years ago).

Maybe I'm just getting older and more cynical.

[CookMySock]

The best "charity" to give have-nothings, is a kick in the arse and a thorough scolding to "go do something useful."

But they won't.

Steve

[Genestho]

No it's not a cancer charity.

"We are dedicated to meeting the basic physical needs of financially disadvantaged children, levelling the playing field for them so they have the chance to reach their full potential."

Check the site out...

http://kidscan.org.nz/about.html

[Donor]

Well, the only thing I have liked about this telethon spin-off has been Carly Flynn.

...and her norks.

In fact, mainly her norks.

[Genestho]

I have some pretty strong feelings on the excuse and use of poverty, myself - having grown up in it, getting out and making choices to change my future through hard work.

We can't blame kids for their parents.

Of course they need more than coats, shoes, All-Blacks and lunches to change their worlds...but think about the seed that's planted.

That's a good and kind seed that's reached into their worlds, however token the perception of reach is...the main statement of this Charity is to "Raise Awareness" that's exactly what they're doing.

[Donor]

That's a good and kind seed that's reached into their worlds, however token the reach is...

So long as it is not a seed of dependency, which we seem so hell bent on sowing and cultivating these days.

Back in the day, we learned about pride, and used it as our motivation to move on from the hard times to the good - now many people have no pride.

So, on that basis I will never financially contribute to a scheme unless I am assured the work will be done to teach these potential future savages to get off their little bums and work to better themseleves, without expecting handouts along their life path.