Who is going to give to Telethon?

[oldrider]

The sort of people who go for DHB positions REALLY SUCK.

The people who appoint them "suck" even harder!

Keep following the fold and the suck goes on and on!

[oldrider]

What's your point though?


Mine is an observation that NZers (primarily influenced by conservative right wing attitudes) have moved from denying poverty is an issue in "God's own" (a reality that can no longer be overlooked), to blaming the poor for being poor (rather than examining the social, economic and political environment that is responsible for creating these disparities).

Make that read (primarily influenced by socialist left wing "behaviours") and you are closer to the money!

People move from left wing fantasy to right wing reality with age, it's called attending the great "school of hard knocks".

I hope you all get the chance to complete the whole course!

Whether you know it or not, "you have enrolled". Life wont be easy but it will be worth it! Good luck people.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

People move from left wing fantasy to right wing reality with age, it's called attending the great "school of hard knocks".

I'm not on any wing I hate flying in circles... and need to be balanced in life...

Physics 101 opposite and equal reaction

[oldrider]

I do not watch the TV3 very often, I find it paradoxical, a privately owned TV station with left wing attitudes and bias!

Radio live is the same company, same behaviour! Socialist Canada working for us?

In keeping with the question of the thread, NO! We give "directly" to selected charities with the bulk (such as it is) going to the IHC.

[Maha]

Apparently 'Everyday, 30,000 Kids go to School without Raincoats'

Now, im no Jim Hickey but, even I know that it does not rain everyday, so where is the problem??

Should it not be a 'Raincoat Appeal'??
All they would have needed was for 30,000 people to hand over a spare raincoat and, job done.

[Maha]

Well they have to buy smokes, beers and feed the pit bull........

That is exactly right in some cases GB...
Years ago, I worked in a Beneficary laden area of Rotorua where, the 'Parents' would send thier kids of to school crying/barefoot/no lunch etc. But soon after the kids left, the dope would be rolled out and rolled up plus the would be normal ciggys laying around. The money that was filtered into the house was not spent where it was needed most. Didn't need to be really, Sunset Primary were already feeding the local kids breakfast and lunch, and this was 13-14 years ago.

[Finn]

I see another Maori kid has been murdered by their parents this weekend. Pity telethon wasn't last weekend.

Hey rainman & short circuit, how much have you girls donated this weekend? Yeah thought so.

[short-circuit]

Hey rainman & short circuit, how much have you girls donated this weekend? Yeah thought so.

Nothing - my conscience doesn't compell me to.

[Maha]

What? How does Kids Can (a children's cancer victim support charity) fall under the heading of "Fighting Poverty"? How does pokies and Woodstock have anything to do with it?

Fighting Poverty is the 'Catch Phrase' for this latest Telethon, they are pumping the 'raincoatless/foodless and shoeless' poverty stricken people within our society.

Personally, I see it as a lifestlye for some, a generational fuck-up if you will.

Kids from generation past and present, have grown up knowing only one way to live. That lifestyle will continue for generations in the future.

Education equals employment.
Hey poverty kids! break the cycle, dont live like your parents when you grow up. If you must wear a cap, wear it properly and ditch the hoodies, pull ya fucken pants up, have a shower, even borrow a raincoat, maybe then, an Employer will look at you with a little respect, knowing you have respect for yourself!

[JimO]

What? How does Kids Can (a children's cancer victim support charity) fall under the heading of "Fighting Poverty"? How does pokies and Woodstock have anything to do with it?

You may or may not have noticed (probably not - most people don't give a shit about anything until it happens to them) that there are only two Children's Oncology (it's a big word - it means "Where they treat people with cancer) units in the country and the children tend to be spread across a rather greater area than Christchurch and Auckland.

Without Kids Can, kids would be being treated for cancer without any parents or family on hand if they had to be moved to either Christchurch or Auckland.

If you want to rant about providing basics, talk to a range of DHB members, who literally don't give a shit about anything except profit despite not having a paying customer base, about attracting and retaining qualified medical practitioners to major NZ Hospitals. It's not just about pay. Have a chat with any NZ Government over the last 40 years about why Hospitals are failing NZers while you're at it.

this conathon has nothing to do with child cancer, in fact the name kids can is a disgrace some people will think they are supporting a cancer charity when its a lazy good for nothing parent bail out

[Genestho]

So long as it is not a seed of dependency, which we seem so hell bent on sowing and cultivating these days.

Back in the day, we learned about pride, and used it as our motivation to move on from the hard times to the good - now many people have no pride.

So, on that basis I will never financially contribute to a scheme unless I am assured the work will be done to teach these potential future savages to get off their little bums and work to better themseleves, without expecting handouts along their life path.

That's cool I see where you're at mate. Reality is, there are no free rides in this world.

I recall random kindness from strangers as a child (via "Birthright") as far as I'm concerned, I was given a handup, never a handout.

I have a friend who is a prominent busnessman who had a rough childhood, he also recalls Birthright with fondness.
His own Father put his Mother in a wheelchair drink driving. The Father was an alcoholic who beat and neglected his kids. This child grew into a man on a mission.

A member of the business round table - this grown man now gives back directly to my community in ways locals won't even recognise.
He doesn't do it for recognition, he does it because he can.

A coat, a pair of shoes and and a feed shouldn't impede learning about hardwork and pride.
It most probably won't change the parents, but maybe it will change the kids.

[Drew]

10% of say 2,000 active members is 200 who can make a difference...plus the other 40% who talk shit on this site but have the ability to make a difference as well

And 1% of them might wanna help, and would then have a thread started about how they're doing it wrong too.

Here's a thought. If everyone looked closer to home, and stopped worrying about the whole country for a second, said country would improve a shit load quicker.

[JATZ]

Hey poverty kids! break the cycle, dont live like your parents when you grow up. If you must wear a cap, wear it properly and ditch the hoodies, pull ya fucken pants up, have a shower, even borrow a raincoat, maybe then, an Employer will look at you with a little respect, knowing you have respect for yourself!

Farkin well said , you got my vote when you run for P.M.

[peasea]

Apparently 'Everyday, 30,000 Kids go to School without Raincoats'

Now, im no Jim Hickey but, even I know that it does not rain everyday, so where is the problem??

Should it not be a 'Raincoat Appeal'??
All they would have needed was for 30,000 people to hand over a spare raincoat and, job done.

There's no feel-good factor then. They do it to make themselves feel good.

[peasea]

Hey poverty kids! break the cycle, dont live like your parents when you grow up. If you must wear a cap, wear it properly and ditch the hoodies, pull ya fucken pants up, have a shower, even borrow a raincoat, maybe then, an Employer will look at you with a little respect, knowing you have respect for yourself!

That's gold mate! Maha fro Prez.