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Thread: Street Stock 250cc 4-stroke twins

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJK View Post
    Holy crap, the RG is lighter yet more powerful and still 100cc less. Oh well, that's a two stroke...
    2 strokes rule Yamahas are better tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDjase View Post
    2 strokes rule Yamahas are better tho
    No way
    Suzukis!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rachprice View Post
    No way
    Suzukis!!
    Yeah , there ok, ive got 3 lol, A 89RGV, T20(1968 250 twin race bike) and a a100 bucket

    I got more yamahas tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by rachprice View Post
    Isn't it just
    power/weight

    Therefore
    the 150 (26hp) 19.39kW/98kg = 0.198kW/kg
    the hyosung (36hp) 26.85kW/170kg = 0.158kW/kg

    That would mean the 150s have a higher power to weight by your numbers (as 0.198 is a larger number than 0.158)
    Though I think the RG's are more than 98kg
    What HP figures , at crank or rear wheel?

    Its usualy easier to lose weight than increase HP (on race bikes any way)

    HP cost $ (once u have sorted airboxs and jetting),
    weight means unbolting suplus road gear

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDjase View Post
    Yeah , there ok, ive got 3 lol, A 89RGV, T20(1968 250 twin race bike) and a a100 bucket

    I got more yamahas tho
    Sounds like a keen two stroke collector! Very nice!


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    Quote Originally Posted by RDjase View Post
    What HP figures , at crank or rear wheel?

    Its usualy easier to lose weight than increase HP (on race bikes any way)

    HP cost $ (once u have sorted airboxs and jetting),
    weight means unbolting suplus road gear
    Oh yeah I was just pointing out how to calculate it correctly by his numbers which were wrong anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDjase View Post
    I do know what is is lol
    and he still got it wrong explaining it to you.

    obviously the hyo has a better power to weight cos it has less power and more weight

    Well at least his goes at the moment
    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    you dont get 180+ hp out of 998cc by being nice to trees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rachprice View Post
    Oh yeah I was just pointing out how to calculate it correctly by his numbers which were wrong anyway
    Chaos getting his figures wrong ...........Never

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiflyer View Post
    and he still got it wrong explaining it to you.

    obviously the hyo has a better power to weight cos it has less power and more weight

    Well at least his goes at the moment
    Whats wrong with your bike?

    Chaos has got a huge advantage with power to weight over you at mo aye lol,

    How fast can you push a hyosung?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDjase View Post
    How fast can you push a hyosung?
    probably faster than he can ride
    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    you dont get 180+ hp out of 998cc by being nice to trees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiflyer View Post
    probably faster than he can ride
    Thats just mean hes just about there, he will be at the track soon as

    When is your Track/Race day happening Chaos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDjase View Post
    What HP figures , at crank or rear wheel?
    From memory(very vague) Rear wheel HP is 85% of crankshaft, I will find some old Dyno sheets and see

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaos rider View Post
    the division of power over weight

    the 150 2's have 26hp over 98kg- so 1 / 3.7
    the hyosung has 36hp (my one) over 170 (wet) -- so 1 / 4.2

    power to weight the hyosung has more power to weight

    but the 150 will probably faster in the corners.
    Ha, hahahahahahahahaha

    Move over Einstein..
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    Fkn crack up. Most awkward interviewee ever i reckon haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaos rider View Post
    the division of power over weight

    the 150 2's have 26hp over 98kg- so 1 / 3.7
    the hyosung has 36hp (my one) over 170 (wet) -- so 1 / 4.2

    power to weight the hyosung has more power to weight

    but the 150 will probably faster in the corners.
    No mate, 33hp on the carburetor models and 28hp on the injected. 171kg dry, your headlight and other bits weigh fuck all.

    Quote Originally Posted by rachprice View Post
    Isn't it just
    power/weight

    Therefore
    the 150 (26hp) 19.39kW/98kg = 0.198kW/kg
    the hyosung (36hp) 26.85kW/170kg = 0.158kW/kg

    That would mean the 150s have a higher power to weight by your numbers (as 0.198 is a larger number than 0.158)
    Though I think the RG's are more than 98kg
    He got it wrong Rach, you win.

    Quote Originally Posted by rachprice View Post
    But it would appear that you are wrong with your numbers anyway (who would have thought?)

    http://www.motorbikes.be/en/Suzuki_R...amma_1998.aspx
    RG 150 1998
    Power = 37hp
    Weight = 122kg (dry)

    http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/hyo...250_r_2009.php
    GT250R 2009
    Power = 27.8hp
    Weight = 171kg (dry)
    Would appear you got your HP's mixed up huh?
    He was only 3hp off on his hyo [carbie model] But he also said by removing the retard wire and cutting the baffles he got 16hp....nope. The rg150 will eat the arse off the hyosung gt250000p all day long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RDjase View Post
    What HP figures , at crank or rear wheel?

    Its usualy easier to lose weight than increase HP (on race bikes any way)

    HP cost $ (once u have sorted airboxs and jetting),
    weight means unbolting suplus road gear
    hahahahahaha the hyo makes about 24-25hp at the wheel on the carbie model.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




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