Yep, it happens. But i bet the opposite happens too.Originally Posted by JMemonic
Hardcore Biker
Yep, it happens. But i bet the opposite happens too.
Plodding along at his own pace
Ahh that's my point, it could have easily been another injury or death statistic, that would appear the motorcyclist was in the wrong. Not saying all collisions ar the fault of other drivers but they are a factor that some seem to disbelieve the involvement of.
Its not the destination that is important its the journey.
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
the point is perfectly valid; given that the law enforcers are liars and that bureaucrats will fudge figures to justify the ends; i wouldn't trust either of am
Bardcore Hiker
What would they charge for a diesel bike then?Robbing fucking cunts.... sums up my thought's!
same with owning a diesel!
Shaken, not stirred in the shakey city!
Moped rider
Does anyone have the breakdown of the ACC levy vs Stephen Joyce's Department gouging us so their balance sheet looks better?
"I took the GPZ out for a ride,
the engine felt so good between my thighs.
Yeah it was cool, 40 degrees outside..."
Hardcore Biker
$570 a year for my car and bike and I can only use one at a time but pay ACC levies on both, how can that not be wrong?
When they put their costs up truck drivers head to town and shut down all the major centres, maybe its time the major cities see what its like to have a few thousand bikes filling the majors streets for a few hours?
In the words of Juan-Manuel Fangio "Brakes they only slow you down"
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Id be keen for a passive protest, as the owner of two cars, and two streetbikes, id like to see some consideration for multiple vehicle owners.$570 a year for my car and bike and I can only use one at a time but pay ACC levies on both, how can that not be wrong?
When they put their costs up truck drivers head to town and shut down all the major centres, maybe its time the major cities see what its like to have a few thousand bikes filling the majors streets for a few hours?
"A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal
Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
Like scrapping the ACC levy on Rego and putting a few more cents on petrol - perfect solution, the more you drive/ride the more you pay to ACC (and road tax). You would only pay for the petrol for the vehicle you are using, not for the other 3 sitting at home not using petrol and not increasing your risk of injury.
I can't see any other way of doing it TBH. If they let multiple vehicle owners pay less then there would be people owning heaps of cars while their family members owned none, but borrowed from the person with heaps. If they put it on licenses then those that don't currently own a car and live near work or take public transport would pay ACC for a risk that they don't have.
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"If the cops didn't see it, I didn't do it!"
- George Carlin (RIP)
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Thats a good point, but putting it on fuel would charge the cagers more acc levies, as they use more fuel. Which I wouldnt complain about, but im sure the cagers would! Maybe integrate milage from the previous rego period into the rego bill, and charge acc according to that, essentially post paid diesle miles but for acc.
"A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal
Just faidin away!
Bike $321.24http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/vehicle-owne...sing-fees.html
Please someone tell me I am horribly mistaken and being a flippin idiot but, it looks to me like it now costs $310 to register a scooter for 12 mths FFS.
Car $247.86
Truck $398.45
Increases in ACC all because Liabour cocked up and lied about their ACC blowout!
Show me the difference between Labour lead and National lead governments!
If you can, I bet it will include a severe increase in costs to the ordinary voter!
Loud and Uncouth
Dead right - four cars here (ok, two on 'hold') and three motorbikes (one on 'hold').
Waay too much money out of my pocket
Winding up drongos, foil hat wearers and over sensitive KBers for over 14,000 posts...........
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Highway Biker
Labour =/= ACC. Thanks for playing.
is early on the brakes
When you crash in your car your funded by that portion set aside by acc, when you write yourself off on your bike your funded by the money put aside in a similar manner.$570 a year for my car and bike and I can only use one at a time but pay ACC levies on both, how can that not be wrong?
When they put their costs up truck drivers head to town and shut down all the major centres, maybe its time the major cities see what its like to have a few thousand bikes filling the majors streets for a few hours?
At least thats my understanding of it.
Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
Yeah, but the car ACC Levy is currently $168.46 - car drivers would have their rego bill drop by that much. If they don't do many kms per year then they would spend less money then they do now. If they do a lot of kms then they will spend more, but that is fair. I also think that it is fair for the car drivers to pay for some of the motorcycle riders ACC costs due to some of the riders accidents being the fault of car drivers.
I also believe that charging ACC levies on the petrol would be a very simple way to do it - and that is definitely an important thing if the government wants to implement a change.
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"If the cops didn't see it, I didn't do it!"
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is early on the brakes
Projected blowout....
ACC Projects future costs
ie When joe blogs sprains their wrist furiously masturbating over dodgy Paris hilton pics in womans weekly then makes a visit to the GP to make a ACC claim, it's assumed they will need x amount of physio appointments and possibly surgery later on down the track... that may or may not happen, the claimant may just give wanking up for a week and then be fine, no further cost to the system... but the projected cost remains.
Now given the 1000's upon 1000's claims they get a year the projected costs builds up substantially.
Im guessing National will look at the figures again when it suits them and see that the crisis they predicted and fed the media with will not eventuate and then they'll say it was because of their input.
People cry on about the cost of paying for rego but if you knew to cost of the average surgical procedure.... i think you would quite happily pay rego fee instead. Factor in you may need more then one procedure to get you back on your feet and then theres the on going costs like home help, weekly comp, rehab the list goes on and on and so does the $$$.
I understand it's a bitter pill to be paying for something when you don't see any rewards for any of money you throw at it. I for one am glad theres a system in place... its not without it's faults but its largley a good system.
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