Dean Veale sets new land speed record at Bonneville

[koba]

Seems strange to me that they have to do all those mods to the bike and go all the way over there to do the same speed as John Hepburn did (191.08mph) on a basically standard bike on some back road in the south island??? But good on em! If thats what i enjoyed id do the same...

He's been faster than that.

204.11 MPH

Just not in an official record run and all that.

Guess he had his eyes on bigger things.

Dean never cracked 300kph at the cliffhanger sprints, so good on him for getting the record now.

Yeah he did! You are thinking of the wrong guy.

Dean Veale did the fastest I've ever seen by a long way, I just about shat my pants when he went past metres away at 328.49 KPH!
Strangely it seems twice as fast as 300.

http://www.cliffhanger.org.nz/result...tsSep2008.html

Bike no.27

[ital916]

Seeing as my point is being ignored, that was a NAKED 'busa. No fairing. Towing a giant wall of drag.

A 'busa with a fairing and that bike's horsepower would have gone significantly faster.

well I didnt now it was a naked busa did I . It is not like when someone says "busa" you think naked.

[mugins]

[QUOTE=car;1129352263]This is an honest question, because I'm obviously missing something somewhere, but the stock, original GSXR1300 was clocked at more than 195mph. I remember various mags airstrip testing it to see if it really could reach the 200mph claimed in the sales bumph. Not quite, but close, was the answer.

Seems strange to me that they have to do all those mods to the bike and go all the way over there to do the same speed as John Hepburn did (191.08mph) on a basically standard bike on some back road in the south island??? But good on em! If thats what i enjoyed id do the same...

I don't get it. How can the land speed record only be a bit over 300km/h, when, as I recall, Max Biaggi did 320+km/h at Monza during WSBK, and the MotoGP riders regularly do well over 300?

Think you missed the point if it was easy every one could do it.Thats why it's a record.Reguardless of the hp you still need traction which is the biggest problem on the salt.Link to pictures on Dean's and Alan's bikes.http://www.dragbikenz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=231 Well Dean.Also Alan pushed up his pb top speed 198 l think

[Picturesports]

To break the record you have to do a number of things ...

1 - Go faster than the record currently stands
2 - You then go to impound where you can perform maintenance on the bike for a maximum of 4 hours
3 - Break the record again with a second run the following day (no two runs on the same day)
4 - The speed of a run is taken as the average of your speed at the 2 mile and 3 mile markers (go past the 2 mile at 195 and the 3 mile at 197 = 196 mph. The speed between the markers doesn't count
5 - There are 3 courses Long, Short and Special - your second run has to be on the long or short courses both of which get cut up due to the mixture of traffic (Bikes Lakesters, Roadsters etc)
6 - Traction is as important as power. Both Alan and Dean were doing those speeds with the rear wheel spinning. Alan for example was recording 196+ average speeds with the speedo showing well over 220

These are the Bonneville National rules - FIA records have different requirements

Cheers Dave

PS The bit about the Bunnings Umbrella is true !

[Deano]

He's been faster than that.

204.11 MPH

Just not in an official record run and all that.

Guess he had his eyes on bigger things.




Yeah he did! You are thinking of the wrong guy.

Dean Veale did the fastest I've ever seen by a long way, I just about shat my pants when he went past metres away at 328.49 KPH!
Strangely it seems twice as fast as 300.

http://www.cliffhanger.org.nz/result...tsSep2008.html

Bike no.27

Whoops my bad - I wasn't there that time. 328kph is HUGE

[imdying]

4 - The speed of a run is taken as the average of your speed at the 2 mile and 3 mile markers (go past the 2 mile at 195 and the 3 mile at 197 = 196 mph.

Shit that's a long time to keep it maxed out

[scott411]

the speed record is for a average speed over a measured distance, not a one off top speed,

and running on bonnieville is pretty difficult, the surface is pretty tricky and changing,

[Dean V]

Thanks for the kind words guys.
We have just got back today as we spent an extra couple of weeks holidaying over there.
Everything went well over there and I am very pleased to of got the record for the class I was running.
The reasons the speeds may seem slow to some of you are mainly because of;
- Altitude. Bonneville is at over 4000' above sea level. This combined with heat means we were running at a corrected altitude from 5 to 7000 feet. This loses a least 10% hp.
- A naked bike is easily 10mph slower due to lack of aero efficiency.
- The traction or lack of is also a bit of an issue.
As has been pointed out the Moto GP bikes are well over 200mph and I am sure that if they were set up to run at Bonneville they would still go over 200, but they do have a somewhat larger budget than we do.
As for the average Busa running close to 200, they just don't. Look at results from cliffhanger.
At Bonneville due to the above conditions they are even slower.

Also, I don't know if it has been posted here but big congrats to Richard Assen who is a NZer living in Oz + his mainly NZ A Ward team. They did 261mph there on a turbo Busa. The fastest ever speed for a sit on bike at Bonneville and the fastest ever NZer there as well.

[quickbuck]

Shit that's a long time to keep it maxed out

Ummm less than 20 seconds between the markers.....

Makes you realise how fast 200mph actually is doesn't it?

[quickbuck]

That bit about the umbrella at the end is pretty classic!

Kiwi cunning eh?
That is up there with some of Bert Munros antics...

[Lurch]

Thanks for the kind words guys.
We have just got back today as we spent an extra couple of weeks holidaying over there.
Everything went well over there and I am very pleased to of got the record for the class I was running.
The reasons the speeds may seem slow to some of you are mainly because of;
- Altitude. Bonneville is at over 4000' above sea level. This combined with heat means we were running at a corrected altitude from 5 to 7000 feet. This loses a least 10% hp.
- A naked bike is easily 10mph slower due to lack of aero efficiency.
- The traction or lack of is also a bit of an issue.
As has been pointed out the Moto GP bikes are well over 200mph and I am sure that if they were set up to run at Bonneville they would still go over 200, but they do have a somewhat larger budget than we do.
As for the average Busa running close to 200, they just don't. Look at results from cliffhanger.
At Bonneville due to the above conditions they are even slower.

Also, I don't know if it has been posted here but big congrats to Richard Assen who is a NZer living in Oz + his mainly NZ A Ward team. They did 261mph there on a turbo Busa. The fastest ever speed for a sit on bike at Bonneville and the fastest ever NZer there as well.

Good shit Dean, welcome back. It must of been a hell of a trip.