Rd4-A character building exercise!

**Drew** · 26th August 2009, 16:22

Originally Posted by Clivoris

Anyway, back on topic. I so feel your pain mate. The long track has been destroying egos since ages ago. My first time out there I came last as well. Sucked. The only solution is the track time as you know. Enjoy Melbourne and try not to think of the rest of us getting fasterer.

The long track is just a bit more technical I've found. Biggest gains I made there were riding more tracks. The whole thing makes heaps more sense after ya do some time at Ruapuna.

**KS34** · 26th August 2009, 17:48

Originally Posted by Duke girl

Gotta keep those brownie points up Hey Ken with the misses otherwise we would never see you out there on the track.

Hmmm the amount of time that I get at the track at the moment I should maybe pass the bag of coffee to Clive

Originally Posted by Clivoris

For a small bag of coffee I am prepared to attempt to bring a smile to your wife's face. I can even get a reference from my wife. She'll say whatever is necessary to get me out of her way.

Anyway, back on topic. I so feel your pain mate. The long track has been destroying egos since ages ago. My first time out there I came last as well. Sucked. The only solution is the track time as you know. Enjoy Melbourne and try not to think of the rest of us getting fasterer.

Ha Ha I'll pass it on! As above it may get me to the track more!!!

Originally Posted by Drew

The long track is just a bit more technical I've found. Biggest gains I made there were riding more tracks. The whole thing makes heaps more sense after ya do some time at Ruapuna.

Too true!

**Biggles08** · 26th August 2009, 19:29

Originally Posted by KS34

1) When choosing tyres dont be so excited by the price you completely forget to check the profile.
2) When things arent going right focus on whats going to make you faster not why you are slow.
3) First look at the way you are riding the bike not the bike itself.
4) Try to make sure it doent take till the 2nd last lap of your last race to work out what you are doing wrong.
And most importantly.....
5) Once you have had the epiphany and things are starting to work dont get over excited and go off track!!

Bloody brilliant KS34....very insightfull actually....especially #2! Well done brother!

**scuzeme** · 27th August 2009, 08:42

..no wonder you looked so glum in the office, i know what it feels like to come back round to the start/finish dead last, it doesnt matter what anyone says you feel like shyte.
And lets not forget the importance of keeping the misses happy i know i wouldnt be racing if i didnt have the support of my family.
End of the day Ken you are actually quite fast when you got it together, put this one down to experience and crank it up for the last round dude, cheers.

**NinjaBoy** · 27th August 2009, 09:14

Originally Posted by KS34

1) When choosing tyres dont be so excited by the price you completely forget to check the profile.
2) When things arent going right focus on whats going to make you faster not why you are slow.
3) First look at the way you are riding the bike not the bike itself.
4) Try to make sure it doent take till the 2nd last lap of your last race to work out what you are doing wrong.
And most importantly.....
5) Once you have had the epiphany and things are starting to work dont get over excited and go off track!!

This really sums it quite well. As Biggles has already mentioned #2 is all important. Focussing on what is going right and make it better.

I know from riding with you at trackdays you can hold you own quite well but you'll probably have to put this one down to experience. Don't get disheartened and turn up for the next round.

**KS34** · 27th August 2009, 11:10

Originally Posted by scuzeme

..no wonder you looked so glum in the office, i know what it feels like to come back round to the start/finish dead last, it doesnt matter what anyone says you feel like shyte.
And lets not forget the importance of keeping the misses happy i know i wouldnt be racing if i didnt have the support of my family.
End of the day Ken you are actually quite fast when you got it together, put this one down to experience and crank it up for the last round dude, cheers.

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

This really sums it quite well. As Biggles has already mentioned #2 is all important. Focussing on what is going right and make it better.

I know from riding with you at trackdays you can hold you own quite well but you'll probably have to put this one down to experience. Don't get disheartened and turn up for the next round.

Cheers Boys very much appreciated!

**scrivy** · 27th August 2009, 16:01

BOLLOCKS!!!

Do what sidecarbob does. Go out really hard at the start, have a near death experience in the first lap, go back to the pits, have a smoke, go have a wank, then you're ready for lap 2!!!!

Seems to work for him..................

**Clivoris** · 27th August 2009, 16:37

Originally Posted by scrivy

BOLLOCKS!!!

Do what sidecarbob does. Go out really hard at the start, have a near death experience in the first lap, go back to the pits, have a smoke, go have a wank, then you're ready for lap 2!!!!

Seems to work for him..................

I really do have so much to learn.

**scrivy** · 27th August 2009, 16:39

Originally Posted by Clivoris

I really do have so much to learn.

Well yeah, but he also suffers from RSI!!!

Also, he has no need to pay for sex!!

**Drew** · 27th August 2009, 16:47

Originally Posted by Clivoris

I really do have so much to learn.

No ya dont mate. There's only two lessons.

NO1. "See god, then brake.

NO2, "To win, ya just gotta brake a bit later than the next guy, tip in a bit faster than him, and get on the gas quicker than he does."

See, racing is easy

**Clivoris** · 27th August 2009, 16:52

Originally Posted by Drew

No ya dont mate. There's only two lessons.

NO1. "See god, then brake.

NO2, "To win, ya just gotta brake a bit later than the next guy, tip in a bit faster than him, and get on the gas quicker than he does."

See, racing is easy

I love the way that racing advice invariably boils down to this.

**zxr400#150** · 27th August 2009, 18:17

hey ken, best adivse that was given to me to go faster was.
#1 Relax on the bike, no death grip on the bars. just relax ur body.
and Second. Be smooth, every thing you do be smooth, smooth on the brakes, smooth on tip in and smooth on the gas on the way out.

**KS34** · 27th August 2009, 19:02

Originally Posted by Drew

No ya dont mate. There's only two lessons.

NO1. "See god, then brake.

NO2, "To win, ya just gotta brake a bit later than the next guy, tip in a bit faster than him, and get on the gas quicker than he does."

See, racing is easy

There is sooo much truth in that!

Originally Posted by zxr400#150

hey ken, best adivse that was given to me to go faster was.
#1 Relax on the bike, no death grip on the bars. just relax ur body.
and Second. Be smooth, every thing you do be smooth, smooth on the brakes, smooth on tip in and smooth on the gas on the way out.

Cheers mate!

**KS34** · 27th August 2009, 19:03

Originally Posted by scrivy

BOLLOCKS!!!

Do what sidecarbob does. Go out really hard at the start, have a near death experience in the first lap, go back to the pits, have a smoke, go have a wank, then you're ready for lap 2!!!!

Seems to work for him..................

I'll give anything a go!