Sinfull's classic project and garage blues!

**sinfull** · 3rd September 2009, 19:42

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

What do you need???

Anything Whitworth ! I have No idea what the sizes are actually, but the motor and box will be on the bench tommorrow And thats where i'm gonna start scratchin the head lol, all the barrel bolts are open end whitworth for starters (ya cant get a ring on em) !
Can lay my hands on a clutch puller, but will want one of my own (haha i just know this)
Gonna go grab myself some Quality AF allen keys morra as my old ones are little short shit ones that have layed around for a hundred years !

**Paul in NZ** · 3rd September 2009, 19:50

Um - you might want to check that out on a Norton forum. I know for the Triumph, by the 70's a lot of threads and sizes had 'upgraded'.

If your heart is set on WW, you can buy spanner sets from British Spares. Can't help with the single plate clutch tool, all my stuff's Triumph these days!

**sinfull** · 3rd September 2009, 19:57

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Um - you might want to check that out on a Norton forum. I know for the Triumph, by the 70's a lot of threads and sizes had 'upgraded'.

If your heart is set on WW, you can buy spanner sets from British Spares. Can't help with the single plate clutch tool, all my stuff's Triumph these days!

Was the other option !! Know that B/S have AF kits as well for the Nortons !
Might do a bit of visiting while i'm out and see what WW tools ppl have and will lend me for the strip down of the engine and go from there !!!
Not silly to convert i guess, cause i can walk in to the local engineers here in Otaki and get anything i might want in AF, but might be scratching to find WW !!

**Paul in NZ** · 3rd September 2009, 20:07

No - I mean by 1972 most triumphs were UNF...

**sinfull** · 5th September 2009, 02:57

So what goes round and round is dissasembled ! Well all but !

Now to get into what makes it tick ??

I Knew metric would cover the odd Whitworth size (or BSF whatever) and yep they were fitting nice and snug, had all the barrel bolts sussed and the head bolts !

Or so i thought !!!

Who does this shit ?

But when i ground my only 13 mm open end spanner down to fit between the fins of the barrels, it all turned to shit when i tempered it so much, it turned to putty !!

Bugga ! My only 13 mm spanna !!! Grrrrrrr ! Every second bolt on my triumphs are 13 mm

Does that sound wrong ? Or do the brits sound undecided !!! W/W, BSF, awww fuck it lets go with the Japs and go metric (ok prolly wasn't the japs but hey) Who won that war ? And how ?
I mean How the hell the british mechanics got on in the field i'll never know ! Who designed this shit ?
........ No wait, your plane is grounded untill we get in a new shipment of, Specialskinnylittleopenendspannerstofittheonebolto nyouraircraftengine, that we can't fucking get at with anything else !!!

Did my head in, being beaten by an engineering HELLO ! Luckily it was club night and there was bourbon to be drank !!! Hence my updating this at.... haha crickey, no point going to sleep ........ oh wait no bourbon in the house, anyone would think i was trying to cut down prior to a summer of racing due in shortly !!!!

Meh the clutch tool arrives in the morning, as i expect will the shipment of skinnylittletoolsthatonlyyourNortonneeds !
Along with the Norton Petrol Heads that have been riding them as long as i have women !
Hahaha that blows any thought of cuttin down on drinking !

**rosie631** · 5th September 2009, 07:23

Awesome project mate. LOVE the old Nortons. Know what you mean about the smell of the grease and oil. Just bought a 2006 Harley after always riding old ones and I am totally missing the noise and the smell. It just aint the same.

**slowpoke** · 5th September 2009, 15:52

Good onya mate, looks like good fun.....but how do ya get all the bikes past the Minister of War and Finance?

Seriously.

I've got my eye on an old project but am havin' all sorts of problems getting my better half to agree. I've tried politely requesting, begging, sulking, bribing etc etc, all done in a dignified manner of course, but no joy as yet. In desperation I even tried withholding marital rights but the cheeky wench didn't even have the good grace to look disappointed......

**ajturbo** · 5th September 2009, 16:21

wow sinny... you doing great work there.....!!!

**alley cat** · 5th September 2009, 17:09

awesome project! tickles ya when they put nuts in fucked up places like that.
I bet that one took a few drinks getting undone.

**alley cat** · 5th September 2009, 17:11

shame. just read your write up for getting it undone! i just looked at the pic and thought fark....... beer time. lol

**Tink** · 5th September 2009, 17:28

No mechanic me.. but I like norton's so hope this one comes off, and we can see ya back up soon racing... on any bike. Nice reading... will bookmark this one. cheers

**riffer** · 5th September 2009, 17:53

Well I finally found the one guy mad enough to pick a bigger basket case than my project.

Great stuff mate. Will watch with interest.

**Paul in NZ** · 5th September 2009, 18:42

Don't forget the odd little head nut between the carbs too ;-)

Once - long ago - this theiving little prick stole the two nuts under the exhaust ports of my Atlas (as well as some other stuff - long story)... Police tried but it was too hard so.... sorted it myself, I'm not a violent person but that really ripped my bloody undies! Smartarse shithead thief! Smug as a bastard for a short while but I got me stuff back... Fucking HATE people that steal shit from other bikers.... Not worthy of having a bike!

**sinfull** · 5th September 2009, 20:10

Originally Posted by slowpoke

the Minister of War and Finance?

begging, sulking, bribing etc etc, all done in a dignified manner of course, desperation, marital rights, cheeky wench

Couldn't help but edit that haha sorry
Nah the Mrs and I had a big talk about how i wanted to sink my share of the last property split on having meself some toys when we first met !! She was cool about it so long as i don't leave her behind !
Worry about old age later, i mean hey, she's 13 yrs my junior and you only as old as ya feeling (up)

Oh and got her a piano the day before i turned up with it !!!
Don't own this one yet, but hey he's my sponser and not in tooo much of a hurry !

Originally Posted by alley cat

shame. just read your write up for getting it undone! i just looked at the pic and thought fark....... beer time. lol

Yeah Nothings changed in the garage since yesterday ! Pulled the speed 3 out for the first time since Jaide aid and give it a crc bath then took it out for a squirt to make sure i scrubbed any crc off the tyres !!
Was the big pain killer free test lol, and apart from the side stand doing a submarine impression in the mud during the wash down all went well with no torn ribs ! Even managed a few 2nd gear stand ups (more like squating ups) God i love that speed triple !

Originally Posted by riffer

Well I finally found the one guy mad enough to pick a bigger basket case than my project.

Great stuff mate. Will watch with interest.

To be honest man i recon if i'd just taken the top end off it and cleaned it up ! (maybe drift the pistons free with the old 2x2 #8 styles) i could have got it going and ridden it pretty easily ! Seems to be none or very little evidence of it ever being under 3 ft of mud ! Kudos to the previous owner, he did do a strip down of all but the internals, even the carb looks spotless inside ! Near every bolt was just nipped up or finger tight, so it has been a breeze to work on so far (other than the lower head nuts haha)

Was that Nut under the inlet that i started grinding the spanner up for Paul, haha found the front ones after that, when it still wouldn't budge ! I then proceeded to attack the spanner with a vengance lol !
I seem to recall i did get a 13 mm socket to slip over it (i think) but ya couldn't get any sort of drive into the socket so, will check again and if so, weld a nut on an old socket to get a spanner on (only need to unwind it 1/2 doz times and then be able to get a open end on it !) It'll be norton tool Number 1 haha
How would ya go about torquing them little fookas up though i have to wonder ! Can ya get open end torque wrenches ?