Michael Laws accused of bullying children

[Robert Taylor]

I thought the correct way to pronouce it was WANKER, you've always answered to that when I've called you

Wharwick, dont you mean WHANKER?

[Headbanger]

Most people I know (me included) think the place is a shithole, the arsehole of the central North Island. The only good thing about the place is they still allow street racing...

Patea is worse

Besides, the greatest thing about Wanganui is not the street racing, Its the thousands of acres of easily accesable off-road riding areas.

[peasea]

Patea is worse

Besides, the greatest thing about Wanganui is not the street racing, Its the thousands of acres of easily accesable off-road riding areas.

Read post 88, I've done some serious off-road riding in Wongers, what's the matter with you lot? The women there are gagging for it.....

[Headbanger]

True, we do have some filthy women, But more then likey they are attracted to outlanders as a means to escape.....

Shit, its either escape, whoring or working down the pet food factory.

[zahria]

True, we do have some filthy women, But more then likey they are attracted to outlanders as a means to escape.....

Shit, its either escape, whoring or working down the pet food factory.

She's a touchy one, the Wanganui issue.
So, cant help wondering why Otaki hasn't got an H?
How bout it, Hotaki?

[ManDownUnder]

She's a touchy one, the Wanganui issue.
So, cant help wondering why Otaki hasn't got an H?
How bout it, Hotaki?

Stohp behing sillhy

[Skyryder]

What happened to the complaint to the Children's commissioner? Don't tell me... the letter from Michael Laws [gasp] wasn't ... abuse?


Prose?????? What the fuck planet are you on? We're not talking Chaucer or Keats. Ooooo I see - you didn't understand "Elegant". Your well thought out response totally belies that (that was sarcasm by the way - another example in case the first one went roaring overhead as most of my comments seem to)



No apostrophe needed in his name - takes the punch of the argument because it make's you look silly




Dude - get it together.

I've cut out most of your comments and have no wish to go over old ground as this seems pointless as well as boring.

However you have raised an issue with my grammer so will comment on this.


As for my apostrophe usage in sir names. Here’s a link on its usage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe

It is perfectly acceptable to use the apostrophe in the manner that I have used it.

But yours.

Children's commissioner?


The apostrophe is in the wrong place. If you are talking about the plural use one or place it after the s. The Commissioner is for many (plural) children not just one. You may have been able to get away with this if you had used a capitol for commissioner i.e Children’s Commissioner but you did not and as such the apostrophe is wrong. As you are being pedantic on this I can too.



But wait there is more.


Here’s some from your previous post to me on spelling no less.

Sure do - it's a fairly basic concept and with the stirling example you gave... hell... what's not to understand? Thank God I'm above all that, looking down on the hypomasses




from the Concise Oxford Dictionary

sterling not stirling

hypo masses not hypomasses as you have written. It is two words and should be written as such

And now your current boo boo.

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/defi...3547&dict=CALD
prose Show phonetics
noun [U]
written language in its ordinary form rather than poetry:
I've always preferred reading prose to poetry. This was the way that I have used it. It is ordinary language usage. Not poetry of Keats and Chaucer as you erroneously believe.

Now who looks silly.


Skyryder

[Headbanger]

Woohooo,,,,,apostrophe fight.

Bikers, We bad.

[zahria]

Woohooo,,,,,apostrophe fight.

Bikers, We bad.

Its ok, It only gets serious when the exclamation (!) marks come out.

[ManDownUnder]

Now who looks silly.


Skyryder

You do man - you're living in cloud cookoo land.
Children's Commissioner is correct (I didn't capilise the "C" - quite right, but the apostrophe is correct... sorry - that's one to me)
Laws' is correct (oopsie... two to me)

oh and "sir name" is surname" (shit... three to me... bugger - and you thought you were doing so well)

Bravo that man. Bravo indeed.

Anyway - enough of the really important stuff... Care to get back to the issues of abuse, Maori Crime Rates, Unemployment, Gang lands wars, Citizen safety in W(h)anganui, Otaki kids being used as political pawns, the fact I called you Noddy and that you were talking out of your arse?

Or don't they really matter?

Besides... you were going to take this most heinous child abuse case to the offic of the Children's Comissioner weren't you? Or is there really no substance. Don't make me resort to the gastrointestinal tract gag again - although having explained it you might actually pick up on the insult this time around

[Headbanger]

I mock what I don't understand......

[Skyryder]

You do man - you're living in cloud cookoo land.
Children's Commissioner is correct (I didn't capilise the "C" - quite right, but the apostrophe is correct... sorry - that's one to me)
Laws' is correct (oopsie... two to me)

oh and "sir name" is surname" (shit... three to me... bugger - and you thought you were doing so well)

Bravo that man. Bravo indeed.

Anyway - enough of the really important stuff... Care to get back to the issues of abuse, Maori Crime Rates, Unemployment, Gang lands wars, Citizen safety in W(h)anganui, Otaki kids being used as political pawns, the fact I called you Noddy and that you were talking out of your arse?

Or don't they really matter?

Besides... you were going to take this most heinous child abuse case to the offic of the Children's Comissioner weren't you? Or is there really no substance. Don't make me resort to the gastrointestinal tract gag again - although having explained it you might actually pick up on the insult this time around

At least I know the correct meaning of words. This post is banal, trite etc.


The ravings of a loser who has not realised that he has lost and is so confused that he thinks the start line is the finish line.



Skyryder

[ManDownUnder]

At least I know the correct meaning of words. This post is banal, trite etc.

Skyryder

So remind me... what was your sir name [sic] again?

No Noddy... you blew that arguent too

[SS90]

What is it they say about ignorance? It's no excuse? Sounds right.

The city was founded by Europeans. And named by them. It is Wanganui - and has been since Day One.
The river and National Park adjacent are Whanganui.
The district is Wanganui.
The mixture of usage, H or no, could be confusing, or actually help identify what is being referred to when people write about the place. The H was added to the river some time ago, in deference to the local tribe/s. That should be enough, since the settlement of Maori there at the time Europeans arrived was not called Whanganui. If it was called anything, was it not Motu (as the gardens of infamy reflect)?

Most people I know (me included) think the place is a shithole, the arsehole of the central North Island. The only good thing about the place is they still allow street racing...

You make a point, but we have to all remember that New Zealand was created as a colony, and, since our ancestors couldn't beat the Maori in war (a little like Vietnam), they entered into an agreement (Treaty thingy) that was supposed to "trick" "the savages" (no offence intended to Maori people with that) and simply take over the country with bullshit.

However, the Maori people weren't "as dumb as the English thought", what the hell respect did Maori people have for a couple of squiggles on paper? The whole concept of swapping (someone else's) land for paper was a concept though up by the white man.

It's common knowledge that many of the "signees'" of the treaty had NO RIGHT to sign away the land, they didn't care for any "treaty", and essentially their view (and I am told it is still the same today) was hey, sure give us you gun's, beads,Tobacco and blankets, we will sign on the paper.

What did it mean in reality?

Nothing.

Maori see themselves as "guardians" of the land of New Zealand, not "owners".

However......

In MODERN New Zealand, it's different.

Money is king of everything. Sad, but true.

So, in the great New Zealand land grab that is, from what I see/read, too many Maori (hey, no way am I saying ALL) simply manipulate and abuse the treaty to line their pockets.

This is basic human nature.

(I hope no-one is offended by this comparison, because it's not meant to offend)

Look at (was) the I.R.A, there was a time that every member was a loyal (separatist) Irishman (or Woman), but, as the years drew on, it simply became an organised crime unit, hiding under the name of a "political organisation" smuggling guns and drugs.

What started out as a genuine cause was slowly manipulated into a self serving slush fund.

Now, I am not saying that Maoridom have anything in common with the I.R.A, but the same thing appears to be happening with treaty claims etc.

We have poverty striken, uneducated,drug addicted young Maori, DESPERATELY needing help, and a government informing us all that "there simply isn't the budget to upgrade our services".

Hang on.

We have a VERY large amount of money EACH YEAR going into Maoridom, (to attone for previous injustices)

I see CEO's (OF LOCAL EWI) driving flash cars, wearing $500 undies (etc) and Tribes sending out stock reports to the members of the tribe.

Great!

How about spending some of that money on your tribe?

I know of not one Maori person who can tell me a story of how their tribe paid for their kids school books, or school fee's, or what ever. (I am sure this does happen, but I have personally never heard of it)

My belief is that is what the money is for!

But no, it gets "invested" by certain "elders" and (lucky for them) they then become "CEO'S" of a wealthy company.

So, we have tribes with literally MILLIONS in CLEARED FUNDS, while they seem to be happy to sit by and let their own people destroy their lives.

So really, the ones who actually need the money (by money, I should say resources, because that, in reality is what money is nowadays.... resources) don't seem to get a thing.

That is ridiculous!

BUT, what makes the news?

Clearly manipulated kids writing a letter (I am sure I could write better than that when I was 11) to a Mayor of a town they don't live in, about trivial shit. (really)

Michael Laws, while some would argue that his wording was ill chosen, is simply saying what many of us feel.

There is plenty of money in Maoridom to create programmes that will benefit the people who actually need it, and the best way to educate these kids is get them to write letters to the CEO's of United Fisheries, asking them to fund the name change.

I don't think anyone would complain if Maoridom footed the bill for the name change.

Kids writing to a Politician telling him they are "angry" with him for the spelling of a town they don't live in......WTF?

The truth is, we never really will know what the "day to day" life of Michael Laws is. We can only go on what is reported in the news, but I am certain that he is dismayed at the level of problems he is having with local "at risk" Maori.

The gang patch thing, to me, seems an action designed to weaken local gangs strength (and therefore attractiveness) to young "at risk Maori".

So, by attempting to address the gang "issue", the way I see it is that Michael Laws is trying to find a new way to help his constituants, rather than following the same methods others use (which clearly don't work, the gangs are bigger and stronger than ever)

So, if you have this in mind (pretending you are Michael Laws) and this rubbish turned up on your desk, you (possibly) would have a similar reaction.

I believe that Michael Laws doesn't need the job, he did 2 terms in Parliament, works on radio, is (clearly) independently wealthy, so there is every chance he does really care about the greater good of his community.

Like him, or not!

[MSTRS:Me]

Great post, SS90. I'm sure that Skyryder will be along shortly to argue with you.

You are right about how the reasons for things being done at one time, change over time. The British just wanted to colonise these islands. Easiest way to do that was to create a 'treaty' with those that were here before them. A sort of "Let's both live here, side by side, and not interfere with each other". Right...like that was ever going to work. The world (western society, anyway) has moved on - but not the Treatyists. Not because they believe in it's aims, but because it's a gravy train.
These kids in Otaki are simply the next generation of recruits to keep that gravytrain a'rolling. The Treaty industry in all it's forms needs to stop. Or be stopped. Laws has simply drawn his line in the sand....others will follow (I hope).