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I thought the correct way to pronouce it was WANKER, you've always answered to that when I've called youOriginally Posted by scrivy
My Surname is always pronounced wrong. Scrivener - Schrivener, Screwvinor, Scribenor, etc. etc....
I'm off to write an ill informed letter to the perpertrators of such a deed!!
Fuckers!!
Oh, and I'll use the race card too.
Might even try and get people educated into the correct way to say it......
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
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Timaru is going to make a decision after the appeal process. Don't know the story on this but one of the gangs has appealed useing the Bill of Rights.
It will be interesting to see what clause in the Bill the gangs are going to use with this.
Will the banning of patches make any difference?? Probably not. They will just find another way of 'announcing' who they are by wearing colours or an icon (bandanna etc) that is associated with the gang.
Still the banning of patches is 'flipping the bird' at them and at least letting them know who 'is' in control. So I'll give Laws credit where it it's due.
Skyryder
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It can't be easy being Michael Laws right now (or in the future), so I am of the opinion that we should all cut the guy a bit of slack.
It really takes balls to stand up to gangs (they have been known to kill babies you know, and it's harder to kill a baby than a politician).
Gangs have had NZ "by the balls" for a long time now, and I am sure everyone is aware that the whole premise of a gang is to "intimidate" people.
I see it that (well founded or not) Michael Laws refuses to be intimidated by that.
This stance may well be from some level of Narcissism from Mr Laws, but the fact that this "stance" has the potential to benefit New Zealand as a whole, gives me the ability to "over look" this possible "narcissism" (sort of like "the end justifies the means").
Every New Zealander is intimidated by gangs, not necessarily individual members, but certainly "the whole gang" weakens the strongest will.
In some sort of idealogical sense, perhaps it is time for other New Zealand councils to form a "united front" (legal gang) and implement similar measures.
You know, if people start to show that gangs don't intimidate them, the gangs will lose their level of control.
Individuals fear gangs, groups do not.
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You seem to have a pretty good take on the meaning of hyprocrite.
So what would you call someone who accuses the Otaki school of child abuse when this same person writes to their students that they should sack their teacher and makes a similar claim on TV ONE, knowing full well that these children do not have the power to do so. This was a deliberate act of humiliation and consequently could also be interpreted by some as an act of child abuse.
Skyryder
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I suspect the "wh" to be aspirated (not pronounced 'F') difficult to explain on a keyboard but in Scotland we pronounce what, why, where and when NOT Wot, wy, ware and wen. It's probably best described as a strong breath through the W. Unfortunately the English group of accents (English, Australian, New Zealand and South African English) are unable to adequately pronounce the letter R let alone an aspirated W they were probably forced to adopt the letter F as an approximate simile. Much the same as when English are taught French they are told that "re" at the end of the word is silent coz thay can't manage it. It's not silent at all it's a very soft r in the back of the throat.
This is known as the evlolution of language and lazy bastards thnk it's acceptable. Jus' go and axe them.
In space, no one can smell your fart.
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Correct, McJ. To a point. As I said earlier, the Taranaki tribes spoke as you say, but not so the rest of the country. Apparently. Maori are Polynesian...look at how the other Islander languages are written (in English, of course)...full of words beginning with 'F'. For some strange reason, it was decided that here in NZ it would be written 'WH'.I suspect the "wh" to be aspirated (not pronounced 'F') difficult to explain on a keyboard but in Scotland we pronounce what, why, where and when NOT Wot, wy, ware and wen. It's probably best described as a strong breath through the W. Unfortunately the English group of accents (English, Australian, New Zealand and South African English) are unable to adequately pronounce the letter R let alone an aspirated W they were probably forced to adopt the letter F as an approximate simile. Much the same as when English are taught French they are told that "re" at the end of the word is silent coz thay can't manage it. It's not silent at all it's a very soft r in the back of the throat.
This is known as the evlolution of language and lazy bastards thnk it's acceptable. Jus' go and axe them.
Oh, with apologies to your odd accent, the work is 'aarks'
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
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I came across just recently.
http://www.wanganui.govt.nz/News/Bea...rt_Summary.pdf
The name has been a mismash of spelling that has now become more of a political issue for both sides other than common sense. There is no winner with this one.
Perhaps a compromise may be the best solution. Keep the H out of the city's name but include it in the rivers name or vice versa.
Skyryder
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One, two free, floor!
Sure do - it's a fairly basic concept and with the stirling example you gave... hell... what's not to understand? Thank God I'm above all that, looking down on the hypomasses
What's the weather like down there?
Pretty bloody savvy to be honest. Their teacher had a go at him through the kids, so he responded in a complimentary manner. Sadly the teacher was unable to see the elegance, style and appropriateness of his response.
Looks like it went roaring over your head too.
Coulda woulda shoulda been child abuse. What a steaming pile of dramatised horse shit. Here's the Office for the Children's Commissioner http://www.occ.org.nz/
Report your concerns, post your letter in here and be sure to include the response. Or are you talking from the wrong end of your gastrointestinal system again?
Time to put up or shut up.
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A compromise? Never knew that could mean 'status quo'...
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
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Thank you for handing your assessment in on time.
When using witticisms in writing make sure that they are appropriate and understood. Stating that you are above the hypo masses with a forum name of Man Down Under just makes you look as if you do not understand the difference between humour and sarcasm.
Your failure to apply the same standards to Mr. Laws as you have to Mr. Sky-Ryder shows your bias in this issue and as such you lose credibility.
Your quote of “Their teacher had a go at him through the kids, so he responded in a complimentary manner. Sadly the teacher was unable to see the elegance, style and appropriateness of his response.” If you are going to give an opinion back that up with reason and if possible facts.
With your comments on the teacher I can only conclude that you have not taken the trouble to sight the letter that Mr. Laws wrote to the children of Otaki school. I have included a copy of this letter. And the link where you can sight this should you wish to do so.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10595439
It takes little stretch of the imagination to conclude that this letter was written in hast. The handwritten scrawl at the bottom suggests this as an after thought that it’s contents and subject matter were not well thought out.
There ‘is’ no elegance or style that you claim in the sentence structure even though the contents are easily understood. There is a great deal of difference between elegant prose and that which is terse.
A letter of complaint should be easily understood and to the point and that is what Mr. Law’s has done. It’s the content and subject matter along with the instruction that children should sack their teacher that is inappropriate from anybody, let alone an elected official no matter what office that person holds or for that matter what reason..
Perhaps as a follow on from this you would like to make a comparison between Law’s letter and those of the Otaki school children in comparison to elegance and style. I would look forward to you comments on this.
Should any parent or for that matter any member of society have an issue with the school or teacher they should write to the school principle in the first instance and then to board if necessary with their concerns, not the students as Mr. Laws has done.
Your inclusion of the link to the Office of the Children’s Commissioner is no more appropriate as a response to Mr. Skyryders post as it would be for him to email the link to Mr. Law’s and asking ‘that’ office to investigate his (Law’s) allegations.
I know you can do better than this and have subsequently marked your assignment with a D MINUS in the hope that this will give you the incentive to do better next time.
Your teacher.
Mr. S.K.Y. Ryder
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Never knew that. Geog. was never my best subject. Still perhaps they could switch. Remove the H from the river and put it in the town or better still make a raft out of it and float it down the river. Great shape for raft. Not a bad PR stunt to get up Mair's nose or for that matter the Mayor's nose as well. Ha Ha. Either way there are no winners unless both sides do decide to have a race with an H shaped raft. Winner gets to choose.
Made in jest but not a bad idea even so.
Still they changed Lancaster Park to something else and it's still Lancaster Prk to me.
Skyryder
Free Scott Watson.
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What is it they say about ignorance? It's no excuse? Sounds right.
The city was founded by Europeans. And named by them. It is Wanganui - and has been since Day One.
The river and National Park adjacent are Whanganui.
The district is Wanganui.
The mixture of usage, H or no, could be confusing, or actually help identify what is being referred to when people write about the place. The H was added to the river some time ago, in deference to the local tribe/s. That should be enough, since the settlement of Maori there at the time Europeans arrived was not called Whanganui. If it was called anything, was it not Motu (as the gardens of infamy reflect)?
Most people I know (me included) think the place is a shithole, the arsehole of the central North Island. The only good thing about the place is they still allow street racing...
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Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
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No, no, I won't have it! The arsehole of the NI is Hamilton and the only saving grace of 'The Tron' is the V8 racing.
I've had some great bonks in Wongers.....ahh the memories.
Ooops, I meant 'Whongers'. (Or Fongers....)
One, two free, floor!
What happened to the complaint to the Children's commissioner? Don't tell me... the letter from Michael Laws [gasp] wasn't ... abuse?
So Big Ears' best mate - how do you feel about sex and travel?
Appropriate - yes. Understood... that's over to you, but it seems fast train left the station before you had the chance to board. So to spell it for you ... I said you were talking out of your arse.
Tee he... that was a good one. I love the way you juxtaposed the "Down Under" in my handle with the implied inability of me to be above you. That was really clever and doesn't smack of desperation at all.
Oh wow - check that out... it seems I DO have a handle on sarcasm. Ooooo and again - wow that was a 2 for 1 deal!
Oh my God you have me on the ropes but wait... no MDU steps aside (referring to himself in the third person all the while in a complimentary manner to Mr Skyrider) waiting desperately for My Skyrider to stop into the clues shop and get a few.
The difference between my response about Michael Laws and the one to you is that I respect Michael. I don't necessarily agree with him - and rest easy you're in that position too, but I respect him.
Do I have to spell this out too?
Complimentary - in the same style as. The Teacher had a go at him via the kids, and Michael had a go at the Teacher via the kids.
Elegance. Simplicity and effectiveness. It was a simple ploy that has obviously been used to great effect. We're still talking about it and there will be a lot of focus places on the teacher that put the kids up to it.
Appropriateness - They wrote, Michael responded, they got upset, he offered an opportunity for them to go over ansd learn a little more about what they were complaining about.
You conclude a lot, from very little, and wrongly. Well done.
.... or it could suggest he's the Mayor... with a job that makes him a busy boy not having time to pander to 11 and 12 year olds that write to about all upset about something they'd never considered on their little lonesome.
Prose?????? What the fuck planet are you on? We're not talking Chaucer or Keats. Ooooo I see - you didn't understand "Elegant". Your well thought out response totally belies that (that was sarcasm by the way - another example in case the first one went roaring overhead as most of my comments seem to)
See my comment on 'Elegance' above. And please... do keep up.
No apostrophe needed in his name - takes the punch of the argument because it make's you look silly
Whoa Noddy. If Michael has written to the principal it could/would have sat there and the very real issues of Political meddling by the teacher, child abuse and other issues in Maoridom been binned and the teacher gotten away with what they did.
A short punchy response aimed at someone else in the system seems to have have far greater effect in raising the issues, all the while using the communications channel proffered and preferred by the teacher in question.
Again I say - elegance
Dude - get it together.
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Indeed, so there needs to be a much much tougher ''stage 2!"
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