Would you ride a Hybrid?

**Mystic13** · 9th September 2009, 11:07

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

Hybrid bikes don't sound like a good idea. Imagine the weight of all those batteries and electrics.

I'd hate to let facts get in the way of a good theory...

The electric dirt bikes being produced and run are lighter than the petrol version. Including the new KTM electric dirt bike coming.

All posted up before.

The reality is they may be quicker. A real advantage for dirtbikes has to be the lack of noise. You're going to be able to set up tracks in built up areas. It can open up a whole now category of motorbike sport with greater and wider appeal because of the ease of use.

Imagine riding down to a local park for a blat as you would with a skateboard. It'd have to be an electric bike park but it's possible with electrics. It opens up the real possibility of an urban sport.

It also opens up urban free-style riding as per Danny MacAskill but you don't have to pedal (youtube it).

This has huge potential.

**SMOKEU** · 9th September 2009, 11:36

Originally Posted by Mystic13

I'd hate to let facts get in the way of a good theory...

The electric dirt bikes being produced and run are lighter than the petrol version. Including the new KTM electric dirt bike coming.

All posted up before.

The reality is they may be quicker. A real advantage for dirtbikes has to be the lack of noise. You're going to be able to set up tracks in built up areas. It can open up a whole now category of motorbike sport with greater and wider appeal because of the ease of use.

Imagine riding down to a local park for a blat as you would with a skateboard. It'd have to be an electric bike park but it's possible with electrics. It opens up the real possibility of an urban sport.

It also opens up urban free-style riding as per Danny MacAskill but you don't have to pedal (youtube it).

This has huge potential.

Then you'd get 5 minutes of great performance and then when the batteries start to go flat it would become slow. When the batteries wear out and need to be replaced, the owner would have to spend $1000s on new batteries. Then there are all those toxic chemicals in the batteries that need to be disposed of. Good in theory, not so good in practice. Petrol power wins.

**bogan** · 9th September 2009, 12:26

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

Petrol power wins.

yeh, cos thats never gonna run out!

**slofox** · 9th September 2009, 12:29

Originally Posted by Conquiztador

The day when I am told that I can not ride something burning petrol I will fill her with Vodka and keep riding.

Come see me - I have me own still...

**YellowDog** · 9th September 2009, 12:38

Originally Posted by bogan

yeh, cos thats never gonna run out!

One of the main things you woild lose by running Hybrid is the ability to maintain and make adjustments yourself. Mr Hybrid garage will be creaming himself.

And that won't be cheap.

**firefighter** · 9th September 2009, 12:50

Originally Posted by crash harry

What factors would influence your decision?

Only if there were no SUV 'Remuera tractors' being used for commuting at the same time.(or any other non-Hybrid friendly cars with less than 2 occupants)

It would be pretty pointless riding an 'Hybrid' bike when this is still happening......

Compared to cars, bikes are already extremely fuel efficient, have less emmissions, take up less road space, less sitting around in traffic, less damage to the roads.......the list goes on

Why should I then become EVEN MORE eco friendly, when Mrs fuckface who ca'nt drive her fucken SUV properly and thinks it's a fucken truck, which will never see any fucken dirt, and can't see over the fucken steering wheel properly and is gonna kill some poor fucker, is still commuting in her dirty big piece of fucken status symbol?

Pretty fucken pointless if you ask me.

There's no solution with Hybrid bikes, the solution needs to start at Hybrid cars, then i'll listen.

Why should'nt I listen? Because I don't even own a fucken car anymore. So i'm already part of the fucken solution.

What a load of shit.....

Hybrid bikes......... gimme a fucken break.

**hospitalfood** · 9th September 2009, 12:55

i thought this thread was about some kind of sex goddess alien crossover, or a pleasure model replicant

**bogan** · 9th September 2009, 13:01

Originally Posted by YellowDog

One of the main things you woild lose by running Hybrid is the ability to maintain and make adjustments yourself. Mr Hybrid garage will be creaming himself.

And that won't be cheap.

pffft, anything that I want to maintain ill maintain it, hybrids arent that much more complicated than standard bikes, there just more bits.

Originally Posted by firefighter

Only if there were no SUV 'Remuera tractors' being used for commuting at the same time.(or any other non-eco friendly cars with less than 2 occupants)

It would be pretty pointless riding an 'Eco' bike when this is still happening......

Compared to cars, bikes are already extreemly fuel efficient, have less emmissions, take up less road space-less sitting around in traffic, less damage to the roads.......the list goes on

Why should I then become EVEN MORE eco friendly, when Mrs fuckface ca'nt drive her fucken SUV properly and thinks it's a fucken truck, which will never see any fucken dirt, and can't see over the fucken steering wheel properly and is gonna kill some poor fucker, is still commuting in her dirty big piece of fucken status symbol?

Pretty fucken pointless if you ask me.

There's no solution with eco bikes, the solution needs to start at eco cars, then i'll listen. Because I don't even own a fucken car anymore. So i'm already part of the fucken solution.

What a load of shit.

there are already eco cars available, not so much eco bikes.
Lead by example? or be a sheep? ur choice

Originally Posted by hospitalfood

i thought this thread was about some kind of sex goddess alien crossover, or a pleasure model replicant

nah, thats ferrofluids at #7

**Dare** · 9th September 2009, 13:10

Originally Posted by firefighter

Why should I then become EVEN MORE eco friendly, when Mrs fuckface ca'nt drive her fucken SUV properly and thinks it's a fucken truck, which will never see any fucken dirt, and can't see over the fucken steering wheel properly and is gonna kill some poor fucker, is still commuting in her dirty big piece of fucken status symbol?

Bahahaha couldnt have said it better myself!

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

Then you'd get 5 minutes of great performance and then when the batteries start to go flat it would become slow. When the batteries wear out and need to be replaced, the owner would have to spend $1000s on new batteries. Then there are all those toxic chemicals in the batteries that need to be disposed of. Good in theory, not so good in practice. Petrol power wins.

http://www.a123systems.com/products
You're forgetting how much simpler electric really is.
Think of this
I've gotta tune/balance my carb...oh I dont have any..
I've gotta rebore my... oh...
My clutch is... Nope..
My EFI is on the fritz....
I need an oil cha... Oh.

All you're gonna worry about with brushless motors is the bearings, the chains, the tyres and the suspension. With the savings of having 1% of the moving parts to worry about and ridiculous distances between servicing the batteries (SUPERCAPACITORS) will pay for themselves. How much do you spend on petrol in 5 years (a lifetime which the nicad batteries in the electric rav4 blitzed by the way). Also pretty sure even synthetic oil/petrol is less eco friendly per tonne than the next generation of batteries.

**firefighter** · 9th September 2009, 13:10

Originally Posted by bogan

there are already eco cars available, not so much eco bikes.
Lead by example? or be a sheep? ur choice

Get your hand off it.

Being a sheep would entail me doing what you say and not sticking with what I believe.........dip-shit.

Secondly: No self respecting 'bogan' would be ever be defending a fucken hybrid bike. Change your name homo.

Thirdly: Yes there are hybrid cars, I mention this in my own post you stupid fucken knob end if you bothered to read it. I also mention that until the vast majority of cages which commute are Hybrid with at least two people on-board then it's a fucken pointless exercise us bikers riding hybrid bikes.

Fourthly: Car drivers on the whole don't particularly like bikes/bikers as it is. Never mind paying any attention to them being a hybrid, if they really gave a shit they'd be on a fucken bus already, not sitting by themselves in a queue pumping tonnes of shit into the ozone.

I'll stick with my petrol.

How about N.Z worry about it's emmissions when China and the U.S are pumping out a trillion times what we are?......oh yeah it's going to make a massive difference at the end of the day eh?

BULLSHIT. It's a fucken scam.

**Swoop** · 9th September 2009, 13:18

Dunno about any "hybrid" (petrol+electric) bike. That would be as silly as a prius!

I'm interested in finding out more on the "Y-bike" electric bike though. It might make a decent "lifeboat" that can be carried in a backpack!

**YellowDog** · 9th September 2009, 13:21

Yes it is a scam.

The polution form motor vehicles is reletively miniscule and the heavy focus on the motorist is to divert attention from addressing the actual causes.

BTW: Apparently the gasses coming out of Kiwi sheep and cows is a H U G E problem. Either we want to eat and export meat or we don't.

**bogan** · 9th September 2009, 13:23

Originally Posted by firefighter

Get your hand off it.

Being a sheep would entail me doing what you say and not sticking with what I believe.........dip-shit.

Secondly, no self respecting 'bogan' would be ever be defending a fucken hybrid bike. Change your name homo.

Thirdly. Yes there are hybrid cars, I mention this in my own post you stupid fucken knob end if you bothered to read it. I also mention that until the vast majority of cages which commute are Hybrid with at least two people on-board then it's a fucken pointless exercise us bikers riding hybrid bikes.

Car drivers on the whole don't particularly like bikes as it is. Never mind paying any attention as them being a hybrid, if they really gave a shit they'd be on a fucken bus already.

I'll stick with my petrol.

How about N.Z worry about it's emmissions when China and the U.S are pumping out a trillion times what we are?......oh yeah it's going to make a massive difference at the end of the day eh?

BULLSHIT. It's a fucken scam.

lol, hit a nerve there I?
I always though being a sheep was just following the masses, but If its ur decision then maybe u would fall into the lead by example category anyways. As for my name, the more people that i convince to use hybrids or just plain electrics, the more dinosaur juice is still available, for the old school rides favoured by bogans, such as a dodge charger, 69 would be my pic. Now do you see how a bogan could endorse such technology and still remain a bogan? also theres no reason why a hybrid couldnt do some pretty mean skids, massive amounts of electric motor torque would probly even help with skids and wheelies.

as for the rest of your post, I think Mr Deuce's words sum it up nicely.

Originally Posted by James Deuce

Point----------------------Chasm--------------------Conclusion.