Warning- for when you up the pace.

[mattian]

A lot of us don't come on here and wank on about it though.

so, you don't deny that you are one of those riders that sometimes pushes the boundaries?

[flyingcrocodile46]

A lot of us don't come on here and wank on about it though.

Perhaps he knows from experience just how enthusiastically you will throw yourself in harms way to prevent collateral damage from overspray.

Fuck dude! Get a grip of your own and keep yer envy under control. This is an open motorcycling forum where people can express their thoughts on a range of related subjects.

Self appointed censors aren't conducive to open dialogue or learning. If you disagree with a post that someone has obviously put a lot of thought and effort into, at least put a bit of effort into providing a basis in support of your otherwise unqualified arrogance and show a bit of respect for the opinions of others. Try and get your point across without being a wanker and slamming others for sharing their thoughts.

If I was as arrogant as you I'd tell you that I make my own decisions about the pro's and con's of other peoples posts, and that you should shut the fuck up.... Oh! I just did

[Madmax]

If it is great at 95kph, then it is going to be better still at 105kph, etc
200+ TO 260 KMH is Fun

[Mekk]

I disagree! Strongly actually!

Everyone has a zone, the place that gives them ultimate pleasure and that really cool feeling on 2 wheels. Now your zone and mine may well be different, in fact I will go as far as to say they will be completely different.

Picture a learner, first bike and a brand new permit to go and learn how much fun motorcycling can be. Scarey shit some may say. Others blast out from the start and dont actually find their own zone without making a huge mistake, possibly one that means pain. Pain can come in many forms, wallet by way of fines, demerit points for breaches and other naughtyness, and even physical pain from injuries sustained.

So, back to the learner without the balls to the wall kick start here for a moment. They are not confident about hill starts. They are hard to achieve without a lot of practise for some. This learner has several hills to negotiate on their way to work or school or what have you. Each day they struggle, overthinking the hows and what should I's of making that hill start without stalling and holding up other traffic. One day it "clicks" for them. Instant hillstart, each and everytime. It happens without effort or thought, all of a sudden they are in the zone. They feel so fantastic! Such a cool feeling!

Dont ever be lulled into thinking the "zone" is anything to do with speed, or being a wanker on the road. The ZONE is all about being in a place on your ride that makes you feel at one with your bike, and the road you are travelling.

I think I need to clarify that the way I read the OP's post was that he thinks that everyone can find their "zone" at higher speeds if they are prepared and know what they're doing.

I'm saying that not everyone has a "zone" at higher speeds and that it is dangerous thinking to feel that once you're in "zone" that you will be OK. This is why I would not suggest applying his reasoning to one's own riding as you may be sorely disappointed.

[Mekk]

You're quite right but missing the point mate. It is better to be prepared in order to help minimise any possible negative problem. The zone is not a place of safety and you can be riding at 10kmh and be taken out or killed anyway. I don't think anyone on here is going to accept that if you speed and do certian things you are going to be okay.... to accept that on a motorbike means we have just moved from the realm of life to fantasyland.

Yes but your post is suggesting that everyone can ride at faster speeds if they are prepared.

Because of the differences between everyone's individual experience, reaction times and a thousand other factors... I think it's fair to say that there are people that should not and cannot regardless of how "prepared" they are.

[beyond]

To be prepared IF they do ride at faster speeds. Subtle difference but point taken.

[Madmax]

To be prepared IF they do ride at faster speeds. Subtle difference but point taken.

Were all going to Die that some stage

[Mekk]

To be prepared IF they do ride at faster speeds. Subtle difference but point taken.

"I don't care who you are or how long you have been riding or how much you tell people you do not speed.... if you are a motorcyclist you are going to push the boundaries at some time and at some place.

That is a cold hard fact!"

[bogan]

"I don't care who you are or how long you have been riding or how much you tell people you do not speed.... if you are a motorcyclist you are going to push the boundaries at some time and at some place.

That is a cold hard fact!"

pushing the boundaries does not have to mean speed ya know, it cud mean going out on wet roads, or gravel roads, or cornering harder etc....

also telling us what we are going to do, is not the same as what we should do, subtle differences, but thats how i read it

[Brian d marge]

Go Rednecks Go....

[flyingcrocodile46]

"I don't care who you are or how long you have been riding or how much you tell people you do not speed.... if you are a motorcyclist you are going to push the boundaries at some time and at some place.

That is a cold hard fact!"

"the boundaries" are relative to the skills and experience of the individual motorcyclist reading the post. For anybody to develop their riding skills they ultimately must expand/push their boundaries.

There isn't anything wrong with the statement... What is wrong, is the narrow minded interpretation of busybodies who assume, their whiney arsed opinions matter more than everybody else and who would insist on imposing their own standards to censure others.

[rosie631]

"the boundaries" are relative to the skills and experience of the individual motorcyclist reading the post. For anybody to develop their riding skills they ultimately must expand/push their boundaries.

There isn't anything wrong with the statement... What is wrong, is the narrow minded interpretation of busybodies who assume, their whiney arsed opinions matter more than everybody else and who would insist on imposing their own standards to censure others.

+1

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[MSTRS:Me]

Self appointed censors aren't conducive to open dialogue or learning. If you disagree with a post that someone has obviously put a lot of thought and effort into, at least put a bit of effort into providing a basis in support of your otherwise unqualified arrogance and show a bit of respect for the opinions of others. Try and get your point across without being a wanker and slamming others for sharing their thoughts.

Will never happen. This is KM, he of one-note-song fame.
"Some men...you just...can't...reach"

There isn't anything wrong with the statement... What is wrong, is the narrow minded interpretation of busybodies who assume, their whiney arsed opinions matter more than everybody else and who would insist on imposing their own standards to censure others.

The other problem with such described people is that they constantly put their own interpretation on what others mean, and use this as a platform to spout their own form of gospel ad nauseum, refuse to allow that they may have got it wrong, cherry-pick what they respond to and ignore all else, offer nothing in terms of constructive advice, and eventually resort to personal attack to the point where they and their chosen targets end up being infracted.

"the boundaries" are relative to the skills and experience of the individual motorcyclist reading the post. For anybody to develop their riding skills they ultimately must expand/push their boundaries.

Exactly. And that relates to everything we do, from the moment we are born.

[cowpatz]

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[madbikeboy]

He comes across as someone with pathological stalking tendencies with no clear objective.
I blame his drug/alcohol intake.

SPB - are you talking about Boomer or KatMan?