The firearm thread

**jono035** · 17th September 2009, 14:49

Originally Posted by scumdog

Can't remember the last time I cleaned the bore of any of my .22 rifles.
A wipe down of the bolt etc and a drop of oil is all the lovin' they get.

Sounds like how I treat my possuming gun, my target rifle gets treated a little bit better but still not all that great.

All my guns are stainless barrels (except the 9mm) for that very reason!

**ManDownUnder** · 17th September 2009, 17:21

Originally Posted by scumdog

Can't remember the last time I cleaned the bore of any of my .22 rifles.
A wipe down of the bolt etc and a drop of oil is all the lovin' they get.

I understand some of the really good target shooters actively advocate not cleaning .22 barrels after running them in. Along the lines of putting a fouling shot through a barrel to get it shooting straight - except the barrel is always fouled becuase there's no copper build up in it

**jono035** · 17th September 2009, 18:15

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

I understand some of the really good target shooters actively advocate not cleaning .22 barrels after running them in. Along the lines of putting a fouling shot through a barrel to get it shooting straight - except the barrel is always fouled becuase there's no copper build up in it

Just as often I've seen them advocate giving the barrel a good scrub with solvent etc. then clean patches then firing a fouling shot, with this process repeated after every string. I think a lot of the process may not actually matter, providing you do the same thing each time...

Edit: This may be more for centerfire benchrest shooting though, been doing more reading about that than .22 stuff recently...

**doc** · 17th September 2009, 18:31

Originally Posted by jono035

Just as often I've seen them advocate giving the barrel a good scrub with solvent etc. then clean patches then firing a fouling shot, with this process repeated after every string. I think a lot of the process may not actually matter, providing you do the same thing each time...

Personally I think when you compare armchair opinion with accuracy the problem develops. If you are aiming to have every one follow the path of the last one fine. Don't compare it with the last succesful kill.

IMOA guns were not designed for targets.

Before you get your nickers in a twists , I enjoy target shooting.

Accuracy involves the input of the armchairs to improve the killrate

**jono035** · 17th September 2009, 18:41

I definitely agree that accuracy for hunting and targets are 2 different things.

The accuracy I was referring to was for .22LR target barrels, which are not (to my knowledge, anyway) used for the type of bush-bashing hunting I assume you are referring to.

I have a gun for each and several more for just making noise and having fun. Each to their own.

Hunting is a test of the shooters skill whereas target shooting is a test of the shooters equipment. I don't hunt anything beyond possums for dog food and the occasional rabbit (don't enjoy eating rabbit though).

**wbks** · 17th September 2009, 20:00

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Hunt...-242382735.htm This looks like a good buy

**jono035** · 17th September 2009, 20:25

Originally Posted by wbks

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Hunt...-242382735.htm This looks like a good buy

I dunno, I'd probably steer clear of the reloading stuff for a while and try find a cheap lee enfield with a scope on it. There were a few that sold for around $150 last week, a couple of scopeless ones going for $120ish. That reloading kit and the materials are probably only worth around $150ish...

**ManDownUnder** · 18th September 2009, 09:18

Check http://www.offtheback.co.nz/ today.

There's a velvet lined ali box I think would be a great ammo tin, or spray a bit of gun oil around in there and you could just check bolts or whatever in their and they'd be polished and lubed while they bounce around as you ride.

**jono035** · 19th September 2009, 13:47

Called Reloader's Supplies on Friday morning to get an updated arrival time on their 50th anniversary kits. Got told probably '2 weeks, yeah, maybe 15 days', pretty much the same thing I got told 2 weeks ago so went stuff this and ordered all the stuff from Outdoor Supplies down in Carterton.

Had a good long chat with their storefront guy, Tim, on the phone about what they had in stock and what they could get in for me. He was pretty helpful with recommendations that were in the vein of what I was after (unlike Serious Shooters who went for the hard-sell or Reloader's Supplies who didn't seem interested) with a few ways to save money in terms of case cleaning and preparation. Asked if it could be here on Saturday and he said sure providing he can get it packed up and out on the courier asap so asked him to go for it.

Just noticed the courier hadn't been yet so checked outside the front door, courier card from Fastway Couriers saying 'we tried to deliver but noone was home'. Sigh. I always seem to have crappy experiences with NZ Couriers and Fastway Couriers.

Oh well, Monday should see me with the gear finally.

That and the brass polish that came with the Frankford Arsenal tumbler kit smells delicious...

**The Pastor** · 19th September 2009, 14:08

Originally Posted by jono035

Called Reloader's Supplies on Friday morning to get an updated arrival time on their 50th anniversary kits. Got told probably '2 weeks, yeah, maybe 15 days', pretty much the same thing I got told 2 weeks ago so went stuff this and ordered all the stuff from Outdoor Supplies down in Carterton.

Had a good long chat with their storefront guy, Tim, on the phone about what they had in stock and what they could get in for me. He was pretty helpful with recommendations that were in the vein of what I was after (unlike Serious Shooters who went for the hard-sell or Reloader's Supplies who didn't seem interested) with a few ways to save money in terms of case cleaning and preparation. Asked if it could be here on Saturday and he said sure providing he can get it packed up and out on the courier asap so asked him to go for it.

Just noticed the courier hadn't been yet so checked outside the front door, courier card from Fastway Couriers saying 'we tried to deliver but noone was home'. Sigh. I always seem to have crappy experiences with NZ Couriers and Fastway Couriers.

Oh well, Monday should see me with the gear finally.

That and the brass polish that came with the Frankford Arsenal tumbler kit smells delicious...

yeah i have no idea when my stuff is going to be sent either!

**jono035** · 19th September 2009, 14:17

Originally Posted by renegade master

yeah i have no idea when my stuff is going to be sent either!

Murphys law as it seems to apply to me would suggest that it'll be sent 2 weeks from 2 weeks from 2 weeks from now whereupon it will promptly be lost by the courier company and then eaten by flying space monkeys (<= bitter that he has nothing left to do this weekend other than lunch with the in-laws).

**jono035** · 19th September 2009, 14:49

Indy (or anyone else with a lee breech lock): Can you give me rough measurements on the diameter of the mounting holes and their spacing on the bench for the Breech Lock press?

I might screw another block of wood under the bench where I'll be mounting the press to beef it up a little. Need to know how much wood to put under there and I can't find jack all in terms of info online.