Honda V4 2010

[motorbyclist]

but the gear driven cams are a selling point ffs!

why else would they ditch them for any other reason than cost?

[Taz]

That video was very enlightening. I reckon this dual clutch technology is very very cool.

[Elysium]

Yep that video sure explained in better terms on how this duel clutch works. Good on Honda to come up with this technology, bet the others will proberly look at someting similier so they don't get leaved behind.

I got a feeling the new VFR's are going to sell well.

[cheshirecat]

might explain why it's been so long on developement

[vifferman]

Whulp, I found out these things:
It's going to be a V4, fer sher.
It's going to have a 28 degree crank angle, and weird firing order: front left, rear left, right front, right rear.
It's going to have a smaller (in size, not capacity) than a Blackbird or VFR800, being both narrower, shorter, and less tall.
It's going to have a Unicam head, like the CRF, instead of 2xDOHC.
It's going to have TBW ("throttle by wire") electronic throttle, and E-DCBS+ABS.

[Danae]

Haven't been following this thread, shame on me! So vifferman, will it be more compact like the RVF ya reckon? I'm not a fan of the latest VFR800...I like the RC45, RC30 + NC30 etc much better. However honda seem to be going for the more angular style these past few years, much like the R1s...headlights look worse and worse lol.

Oh and excuse my lack of mechanical knowledge in advance haha

[vifferman]

The engine is going to be more compact than the VFR800, even though it's more'n likely going to be at least 1000cc, and possible a 1200 or 1400 as a touring option.
Oh - and here's where I got the info about the engine from: an interview with the Honda dude responsible. Go to the box in the lower left corner, and mouseover over the smaller boxes till you get the one that says "V4 Engine", and click that.

[Danae]

Pink website is pink XD

Wow, the engine is gonna be tiny...although it looks to be aiming towards more of a sport tourer. :/ Although there is that video of the goldwing being flung into corners and such....hopefully this one will be more "flickable", thus fun in the twisties.

[Elysium]

Well dam that engine just gets better.

[vifferman]

This is possibly only one of the new VFR models, maybe the ST1300/Blackbird replacement (only conjecture - hoo nose fer sher?)

Check it out.

[Swoop]

Picture #4 makes it appear to be losing a lot of fluids...
#5? Is that a camera on the end of a boom? Camera crew doing advertising stuff perhaps?

[Mystic13]

Didn't read back through the thread so don't know if you guys are getting up to date info on the VFR1200 which apparently will be in store here in January 2010.

The site is being drip fed and is starting to get a little annoying. More info would be better.

The main site
http://feelv4.com/en_GB/pages/mainpa...r:E04/ln:en_GB

There are a bunch of boxes that are being revealed over time. Some have info now and some don't.

The engine
http://feelv4.com/en_GB/pages/mainpa...r:E04/ln:en_GB

Design philosophy
http://www.nzanlp.org.nz/?nzanlp-and...reness-week,55

At the moment I'm expecting the fairing seen to be a disguise (actually hoping) and that it'll look much better than it does so far.

[vifferman]

At the moment I'm expecting the fairing seen to be a disguise (actually hoping) and that it'll look much better than it does so far.

The thing is, there's likely to be more'n one model. The one we've seen two lots of spy pictures of looks like being the touring version, so will have the built-in crumple zones, giving the fairing a weird look. OTOH, it could well be a 'mule' with a fake fairing. I find this a bit unlikely, given that it has Honda badges on it; if the intention was to obfuscate, surely they'd try to be completely incognito.

[NZsarge]

Yep that video sure explained in better terms on how this duel clutch works. Good on Honda to come up with this technology

While I guess this is it's first application in road bikes twin clutch gearboxes have been around for decades in cars but only widely used in recent times. The old mans car (and his last one) has a twin clutch gearbox, hell even new Mitsubishi Lancers have twin clutch transmissions..

bet the others will proberly look at someting similier so they don't get leaved behind.


I don't think it's that great an idea for bikes, more to go wrong and when the bike gets a few k's on it lord help you when it comes to repair bills!


I got a feeling the new VFR's are going to sell well.


Depends where it's priced really does'nt it? If it's horrendously over priced like the Latest Fireblade is then perhaps not as well as you may think but whatever, I happen to think new VFR's have been over priced for quite some time now given how long that models has been around without and significant update but I think most bike manufacturer's are guilty of that one.

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[Blackbird]

This is (allegedly) the touring version to replace the Pan European. I hope so because if it's the Blackbird replacement, I can't see me feeling very sporty on it!