KLR riders out there

**pete376403** · 28th September 2009, 16:59

Do you really get that much dive at the front when you brake? (pre intimators things) I thought my bike was pretty good for that (KLR notwithstanding). Are you a big fat bastard / standard US sized rider?
That on topic enough for ya?

**marks** · 28th September 2009, 17:06

Originally Posted by pete376403

Are you a big fat bastard ?
That on topic enough for ya?

go on Pete - get right up 'im

you should try mine and see what you think of the difference.

**Woodman** · 28th September 2009, 17:18

personally I have never had an issue with front end dive, in fact it can be useful for making the back lighter for when you want the back to hop out coming into a corner. i didn't get internalmunters for the dive issue but for the handling the real rough stuff issue.

BTW what does IIRC mean?

**Moki** · 28th September 2009, 17:41

Padmei,

I think the result of having intiminators installed will become apparent when your out actually riding, rather than measuring this or that. I certainly feel a complete change to how the front-end feels and responds-especially around corners and uneven ground. Haven't had it on the gravel yet tho.

**JATZ** · 28th September 2009, 19:22

Originally Posted by Woodman

BTW what does IIRC mean?

"If I recall corectly" ya numpty, BTW hows the scollys ?

**warewolf** · 28th September 2009, 19:54

Originally Posted by Woodman

BTW what does IIRC mean?

Google is your friend, IIRC.

Padmei, your results do sound odd. A couple of things I'd query. Your sag measurements seem dodgy. Were the forks hanging free (wheel off the ground) when you did the measuring? Otherwise you'd only be getting the difference between static & rider sags.

With the Mitsi valve springs firming things up, you should have had much less suspension travel under brakes. You got 165-169mm with them in, but only 129-132 with them out. Something's not right there.

When I rode Nordie's intiminator-equipped KLR (S-model) it was glaringly apparent they were there and working - felt completely and utterly different to virtually all damper rod forks. Downhill braking had much, much less dive and left heaps of travel for soaking up bumps.

I would suggest a back-to-back test with Woodman before he gets his installed. Ride down from the Maungatapu summit on the Nelson side, swap bikes & repeat. Report back here. If not hugely different, I'd be inclined to think you cocked up the install... kinda unlikely... or else you got a dud pair... also kinda unlikely.

**Woodman** · 28th September 2009, 20:12

Originally Posted by JATZ

"If I recall corectly" ya numpty, BTW hows the scollys ?

Thankyou i think. Scollys were bloody beautiful, ate a heap on Friday night and then a heap last night, and just went out to dinner with an old mate and had another plateful or 2.

Back to the topic at hand, I would be keen for Padmei to see if my non intimatemotor equipped bike seems any diff, baring in mind they are different models.

**Padmei** · 28th September 2009, 20:13

Valid points all.

I had no real issue with brake dive before the intimators, in fact am really impressed with the KLR brakes, but was really surprised there was so much when I took the boots off & tried my experiment.
I didn't deliberately set out to try & prove whether the Ints work or not but was interested to see if there was any way of having visual or concrete proof before going for a ride to judge their perceived performance

I don't really count myself as being experienced enough to be a factory test pilot but in the hour long ride I had didn't really think they were that good. I figured the longer I ride the more I'd get used to them & was after that intial comparison straight from stock.

My thoughts for now are that I was expecting too much from them or the suspenders on Gonzo aren't really that bad to begin with

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I will go for a ride next weekend & see if they feel better.

Look for the guy with white lab coat & pen protector in pocket

**NordieBoy** · 28th September 2009, 20:24

I feel that the harder you work them the better they go.
Whereas the stockers get further out of their depth.

As said, I'll go through some bumps on the road and be surprised how I felt each one, having expected them to disappear but you'll hit the occasional one where you're expecting to really feel it and it'll glide through it (until the back wheel hits it and really lets you know it's there).

Get the sag sorted first...

**warewolf** · 28th September 2009, 21:28

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

As said, I'll go through some bumps on the road and be surprised how I felt each one, having expected them to disappear

I was talking to Robert Taylor about the suspension on the Trophy, how even with the GVEs tuned I'd still get a big hit through the forks on the bigger bumps. His response: well they are big bumps, not even the finest suspension is going to make them disappear. (Horses for courses, riding the 640 around makes a lot of bumps disappear vs any road-only bike.)

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

but you'll hit the occasional one where you're expecting to really feel it and it'll glide through it (until the back wheel hits it and really lets you know it's there).

You talking about the XR again?

**NordieBoy** · 28th September 2009, 21:35

Originally Posted by warewolf

You talking about the XR again?

Not quite to that extent

**Padmei** · 29th September 2009, 06:54

Originally Posted by warewolf

Padmei, your results do sound odd. A couple of things I'd query. Your sag measurements seem dodgy. Were the forks hanging free (wheel off the ground) when you did the measuring? Otherwise you'd only be getting the difference between static & rider sags.
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