Is this a scam?

[MSTRS:Me]

okay update, admitibly i got busy on sunday and couldnt relli be bothered going in all honesty,

saturday morning, i get a call from a man, returning my message orginaly left on the ph number supplied . I mentioned the lady that called me to him and that she charged a $160 registration fee. He had no knowledge of her although they were both offering this same position.

Apparantly what you do is you promote a product (some kind of magic herbal formula) and then you also get the money from the "registration fees" of signing up new people,

the funny thing was, his registration fee was $560.00!! I told him that i wasnt interested. He said that was fine and he would ring later to catch up or something lol, I also told the lady i wasnt interested.

you only make 500-1500 a month, and sounds like a bit of a used car-salesman type roll, not my thing..... scam, %50

feel sorry for these guys

That is the definition of a pyramid scheme. You only make money by signing new people up. Pyramid schemes are illegal (in NZ).

[Taz]

So we'll never know if she was hot?? Lazy bugger.

["Rambo"]

Had something similar offered to me. Faenza Aitken is the lady running it if it's the same. Similar to multi-level marketing and you have to travel and spend dollops of cash going to seminars etc. American concept, Faenza is a Kiwi based in Aus.

Website:
http://www.JustPureI.com
http://www.2aRichLife.com.au

Check these out.

Check these out if your worried about scams. its a complete list of Chinese shopping site scammers.

http://www.firetrust.com/en/blog/chr...e-scams?page=3

[Rodney007]

So we'll never know if she was hot?? Lazy bugger.

lol.... was going to go cause i really didnt have a full idea on what was going to happen. as she seemed to hold back on alot fo the details via the ph, probably wanting to use her charm, a flash english accent to suck me in face to face,

after the guy called it put me off. if its illegal should i report the guys number to the police? hes advertising in the local newspaper

[Gremlin]

That is the definition of a pyramid scheme. You only make money by signing new people up. Pyramid schemes are illegal (in NZ).

Yes, its the definition, but Amway is operating... I believe if they're selling a legitimate product or something, they can get around the pyramid scheme rules. The ACN link above I posted does exactly that as well.

Basically, those schemes entice you with the basic, sign up, and the more people you sign up, the more you get (or you get promoted to higher positions) with flash titles, promises of lots of money etc.

Unfortunately, often those that can least afford it, are the ones sucked into the scheme.

[MSTRS:Me]

Yes, its the definition, but Amway is operating... I believe if they're selling a legitimate product or something, they can get around the pyramid scheme rules. The ACN link above I posted does exactly that as well.

Basically, those schemes entice you with the basic, sign up, and the more people you sign up, the more you get (or you get promoted to higher positions) with flash titles, promises of lots of money etc.

Unfortunately, often those that can least afford it, are the ones sucked into the scheme.

You are quite right. To be legal, there must be a product or service exchanged for money. Some of these 'schemes' skate real close to the line, though. Like it or not, Amway and others of a similar nature are not even close to that line.
A pyramid scheme consists solely of people signing up new people and taking a % of the signup fee for themselves. There was one called Aeroplane floating around quite a few years ago. Decreasing percentages apply all the way to the top, where the money can be huge, due to hundreds of people below paying a little up the line. If no-one new signs up, the whole thing collapses.
The term 'pyramid' is not really fair though, since it describes a hierarchy where a few at the top make all the money...just like any business with layers of staff.

[steve_t]

I think that a pyramid scheme involves getting money because the person you signed up sold something. To get around this, instead of getting money, you get credits... I went along to a "multi level marketing" seminar by a company called Usana. They sell multivitamin/multimineral dietary supplements. I thought I'd check it out cos I was interested in their product. When the guest speaker came out the first thing he said was "Who here wants to make some money?!" and I instantly knew I was in the wrong place.
It turns out that as a Usana seller, you need to buy Usana yourself for $300 a month. The way you offset these costs are by signing up other people below you. They'll each pay $300 a month and you'll get credits to lower your costs. "It isn't a pyramid because you can only have 2 people below you. Those 2 people are each only allowed 2 people".... hmmm 1 person at the top and an exponentially increase down through lower levels... pyramid? But the people below you don't give you money directly. You instead get credits from the company - thus it's not a pyramd scheme

[MSTRS:Me]

I think that a pyramid scheme involves getting money because the person you signed up sold something. To get around this, instead of getting money, you get credits... I went along to a "multi level marketing" seminar by a company called Usana. They sell multivitamin/multimineral dietary supplements. I thought I'd check it out cos I was interested in their product. When the guest speaker came out the first thing he said was "Who here wants to make some money?!" and I instantly knew I was in the wrong place.
It turns out that as a Usana seller, you need to buy Usana yourself for $300 a month. The way you offset these costs are by signing up other people below you. They'll each pay $300 a month and you'll get credits to lower your costs. "It isn't a pyramid because you can only have 2 people below you. Those 2 people are each only allowed 2 people".... hmmm 1 person at the top and an exponentially increase down through lower levels... pyramid? But the people below you don't give you money directly. You instead get credits from the company - thus it's not a pyramd scheme

Eh...wrong!! For a scheme to be a 'pyramid', there must be no product changing hands, and money comes direct from signing up people below you. I said so in my last post.
I also said that the word 'pyramid' is a misnomer, because every business is set up on the same lines...except hospitals where there is one person on the 'shop floor' and increasing numbers at each level up the management chain...well OK - that's an inverted pyramid.