Slagging off partners or spouses or parents

[James Deuce]

I think we're on different wavelengths. I am talking about the internet culture, the way people interact with other people through it, not the technical skill needed to use it.

My I.T. helpdesk response was a generalization, sorry.

The Stranger's response is typical of the kind of people I am talking about, regardless of age. Usually exemplified by people new to the internet. This includes prepubescent youtubers and ignorant "old cunts".

The people that think that talking to the anonymous is the same as talking face to face and that everything is so offensive and worth getting worked up about.

I mean is the guy sitting there balling his fists, raging out at a post he disagrees with? Shit, he'd better stay away from The Herald's "your views" section in case he has a heart attack.

Hang on a minute, there isn't one single Internet culture, and you're making huge assumptions about the 40 years+ previous experience some people have on the Internet.

For the bulk of its existence it has been a forum for peer reviewing intellectual publications. The applications that run on its framework are quite seriously, secondary to many organisations who are its biggest users. Don't assume that porn, Skype, Web Browsing and email and how people use them are why the Internet is there.

Your attitude is symptomatic of the "I've always used the Internet this way and everyone else has to adapt to my perception of it" syndrome that a bunch of young cunts have dragged through the last decade's worth of "knowledge worker economy" education policies which have been foisted on a work force already short of skilled productive workers.

Something that particular group needs to get to grips with is that their anti-social approach to Internet based communication is a cultural blip that will correct itself. Courtesy and respect are what glue any culture together. The assumption that using the Internet requires a disrespectful, discourteous manner to be regarded as "hip" (get orf my lawn) is why a large number of sub-25 year olds find themselves being treated as children in a corporate environment. Making people feel good about dealing with you is paramount to successfully concluding a interaction with a person.

Just because your MO in regard to Internet communication has always been confrontational and semi-literate doesn't mean everyone else gets it, and the 5 monkeys method of education doesn't work with the "old cunts". They know how it works, and don't care what other people think about their inability to adapt to a small percentage of the general population's insistance on behaving poorly as a default setting.

In future, please refer to my signature before posting.

[MSTRS:Me]

Courtesy and respect are what glue any culture together.

I think Mekk is referring to his sort of culture...you know, the one usually found in a petri dish.

[Mekk]

Hang on a minute, there isn't one single Internet culture, and you're making huge assumptions about the 40 years+ previous experience some people have on the Internet.

I am referring to the manner in which people communicate differently via the internet as the internet "culture". That can include any number of different sub-cultures(?) but the main thing is the avenue and the anonymity it provides.

Your attitude is symptomatic of the "I've always used the Internet this way and everyone else has to adapt to my perception of it" syndrome that a bunch of young cunts have dragged through the last decade's worth of "knowledge worker economy" education policies have foisted on a work force already short of skilled productive workers.

Is the reverse perspective any different in saying that "This is the way I've done it offline, everyone else should adapt to that perception online"?

Something that particular group needs to get to grips with is that their anti-social approach to Internet based communication is a cultural blip that will correct itself. Courtesy and respect are what glue any culture together. The assumption that using the Internet requires a disrespectful, discourteous manner to be regarded as "hip" (get orf my lawn) is why a large number of sub-25 year olds find themselves being treated as children in a corporate environment. Making people feel good about dealing with you is paramount to successfully concluding a interaction with a person.

I agree, but part of internet culture is trolls and fucktards, just as in the real world. It is unreasonable to expect it to be clean of it and lecture others.

Just because your MO in regard to Internet communication has always been confrontational and semi-literate doesn't mean everyone else gets it, and the 5 monkeys method of education doesn't work with the "old cunts". They know how it works, and don't care what other people think about their inability to adapt to small percentage of the general population's insistance on behaving poorly as a default setting.

Eh, you don't go riding and complain that you got bugs on your headlight.

[McJim]

All the world's a bastard.

[James Deuce]

I am referring to the manner in which people communicate differently via the internet as the internet "culture". That can include any number of different sub-cultures(?) but the main thing is the avenue and the anonymity it provides.

Is the reverse perspective any different in saying that "This is the way I've done it offline, everyone else should adapt to that perception online"?

I agree, but part of internet culture is trolls and fucktards, just as in the real world. It is unreasonable to expect it to be clean of it and lecture others.

Eh, you don't go riding and complain that you got bugs on your headlight.

I don't know if you're being deliberately obtuse, but I will give you one pointer.

Try to find analogies that are meaningful, because despite the lovely spelling and grammar I'm not sure that any of what you typed in response to my post was related to what I said.

[McJim]

Eh, you don't go riding and complain that you got bugs on your headlight.

I go riding and get bugs on my headlight - it's a real pain in the arse and its your mother's fault

[cc rider]

I go riding and get bugs on my headlight - it's a real pain in the arse and its your mother's fault

Is that like, 'puter speek for...I wen out horing n caught sumpten - don't member doin THAT! n yeah, it's still your old ladies fault.

[Mekk]

I don't know if you're being deliberately obtuse, but I will give you one pointer.

Try to find analogies that are meaningful, because despite the lovely spelling and grammar I'm not sure that any of what you typed in response to my post was related to what I said.

Hah, end-of-the-day-itis on the analogy. The worst part being that it took me a couple of minutes to think up!

The rest stands.

[James Deuce]

The rest stands.

No it doesn't because it's subjective nonsense.

[Mekk]

No it doesn't because it's subjective nonsense.

The meat of your argument, that we should all just get along falls out of line with reality.

Cultural blip that corrects itself? Like convicts, anti-social behaviour offline? Please let me know when that happens!

[Swoop]

anyone else hear of this Internet culture ??

It grows on old cheese?

[MSTRS:Me]

The meat of your argument, that we should all just get along falls out of line with reality.

Cultural blip that corrects itself? Like convicts, anti-social behaviour offline? Please let me know when that happens!

And the meat of yours is that 'others do it, so it's ok'
You obviously weren't paying attention in nature class...the herd always protects itself (eventually, at least).

[Mekk]

And the meat of yours is that 'others do it, so it's ok'
You obviously weren't paying attention in nature class...the herd always protects itself (eventually, at least).

No, the meat of mine is that it's unreasonable to expect the same kind of treatment online as you would in the real world.

[MSTRS:Me]

No, the meat of mine is that it's unreasonable to expect the same kind of treatment online as you would in the real world.

Much like we expect a reasonable standard of road-sharing...but we know that there are a few complete tossers out there? They can be avoided, just like the keyboard cowboys can be.

[Mekk]

Much like we expect a reasonable standard of road-sharing...but we know that there are a few complete tossers out there? They can be avoided, just like the keyboard cowboys can be.

Exactly my point.

It's no use getting all worked up over people slagging people off when it can be avoided.

I was saying earlier it seems that the naive people who get upset about it are usually the ones that are relatively new to the internet. They don't seem to grasp that people can and will say those things with the cloak of anonymity.