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    It's still less than I was paying in NSW 10 years ago.

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    What a crock of shit. Just privatise the fucking thing. Anyone earning a decent wage and with more than one vehicle I reckon could at least get cheaper insurance privately. Or at least give everyone the option. Oh, but hang on, we have to prop up all the rugby players, skiers etc etc that don't pay any user related levies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    [I]"This $4.8b loss will go down in New Zealand history......

    So it makes me wonder - just what the F were Labour doing for nine years - I only got tax increases and extra levies (ha ha a tax) from them during their reign. Bastards.
    Off course they didn't know of this pending deficit - well officially anyway. A nice little present to leave the Nats and part of the plan to win in the future.
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    $4.8Billion deficit..

    Doesn't the welfare system cost us all $7M a day?

    My maths might be out by a decimal point.. but wouldn't it be easier to not pay out any benefit payments for seven days, and there'd be enough money in the kitty to clear the deficit.. and wage earnings (rather than benefit earnings) wouldn't be affected at all.

    Edit.. just read all the story..

    Labour's ACC spokesman David Parker said the situation was not as gloomy as the government was projecting. The ACC's liabilities and costs were increasing but it was also the country's biggest insurer, and the cost blow-out could not simply be blamed on poor management.
    How the fuck would someone from liabour be able to recognise poor manangement??
    It's only when you take the piss out of a partially shaved wookie with an overactive 'me' gene and stapled on piss flaps that it becomes a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2952...op-your-wallet

    They're not here to discuss their findings or the application of regulatory change.

    Running a vehicle is about to become very much more expensive. Couple this with Third Party Insurance becoming compulsory and very expensive in the near future and there will be a huge increase in unregistered, unwarranted, unlicensed, uninsured drivers.
    We wont necessarily get a "huge increase" in unregistered, unwarranted, unlicensed, uninsured drivers.

    Lets get strict with confiscating vehicles for those people who habitually operate a vehicle illegally.

    We have no automatic right to have a licence to operate a vehicle on a public road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    We have no automatic right to have a licence to operate a vehicle on a public road.
    I fucken well do. Why? Becuase I pay for it.

    I paid for my licences.

    I pay rates, tax through my pay, tax through fruit and veges, tax through consummables, tax through petrol, tax through meat, tax through my registration, tax through my WOF.

    That's just a few small areas where I pay tax.

    Piss off with the "automatic right to have a licence to operate a vehicle on a PUBLIC ROAD" old hack statement.

    I pay for the right. Who the fuck are you or anyone else who wanks this argument to tell me i'm privelidged to be able to do so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter View Post
    I fucken well do. Why? Becuase I pay for it.
    I'll agree with you to the extent that a licence bestows upon the entity the ability to perform what is listed in the licence.

    For vehicles your licence is initially granted by the Crown after an initial test for the use of the Crown's road. Your licence is granted for a period of ten years, upon which you pay an administration fee to renew your licence.

    You don't pay any royalty for the use of the licence per-see, and the Crown can revoke your licence - for the use of the Crown's road.

    The Crown has no obligation to re-new your licence, although it is common practice to do so.


    Your "right" to a licence is really just the Crown continuing to allow you to use its road. If the Queen rang up the Governor General tomorrow and said you couldn't use the Queen's road again, that would be the end of it - licence or not.

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    I'm afraid that your grasp of Constitutional Law is extremely deficient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    I'm afraid that your grasp of Constitutional Law is extremely deficient.
    I bow to your knowledge. Would you care to correct my errors so I may learn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post

    TPO Insurance should not be too expensive...it's not now and that is with insurance not being compulsory...with Insurance it means that Insurer's can recover money....
    Because they have to compete in a very limited market. Given the choice between TP and no insurance, my gut feeling is that an awful lot of people skip insurance to buy a bigger intercooler.

    As SOON as it is compulsory premiums will sky rocket. It's disingenuous to believe otherwise, ESPECIALLY if you work IN the Insurance industry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    We wont necessarily get a "huge increase" in unregistered, unwarranted, unlicensed, uninsured drivers.

    Lets get strict with confiscating vehicles for those people who habitually operate a vehicle illegally.

    We have no automatic right to have a licence to operate a vehicle on a public road.
    How do you figure that? It will go against every trend recorded by the NZ "public" whenever legal compulsion has been presented. There are already a significant number of unwarranted, unlicensed, uninsured lower income folk driving on the road, citing expense as an excuse.

    Vehicle confiscation does not punish the driver. It punishes the owner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    It's still less than I was paying in NSW 10 years ago.
    Yes, and NZers on the whole still earn less than the average New South Welshman was earning 10 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    Your "right" to a licence is really just the Crown continuing to allow you to use its road. If the Queen rang up the Governor General tomorrow and said you couldn't use the Queen's road again, that would be the end of it - licence or not.
    You need to understand what a Constitutional Monachy is.

    The last bloke who did not understand this got his chopped off.


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    Governments shouldn't be allowed anywhere near entities that should be commercial, particularly banks and insurance companies. That's because politicians love to meddle, particularly with money that isn't theirs.

    ACC should be privatised. It was briefly once before, just over 10 years ago. Oh how I rejoiced when my employer premiums fell. Then, in 1999, the Bloody Labour Gummint(TM) won an election and felt compelled to renationalise it all again, for no good reason either other than political dogma. Left-leaning parties are good at dogma.
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