Well bikers are screwed - ACC levy

**chrispy121** · 14th October 2009, 19:43

Originally Posted by JohnR

"Motorcycle levies

Within the motor vehicle levy changes (summarised in the above table) ACC is proposing major changes to motorcycle levies to take into account the fact that for several years, car drivers have been subsidising motorcycle and moped riders.
The new levies reflect the fact that motorcycle riders are 16 times more likely to be involved in a road crash than any other road users and are far more likely to be seriously injured. In 2008/09 ACC paid more than $62 million for motorcycle riders but collected only $12.3 million in levies from them.
Even with the significant proposed increases in the rates payable by motorcycle and moped drivers to redress this imbalance, car drivers will still continue to subsidise motorcycle and moped drivers by $77 a year for the 2010/2011 year.
‘The proposed legislative change to extend the full funding date to 2019 would reduce the effect of residual claims on motor vehicle levies by $100,’ said Mr Judge. ‘However, whether or not this translates into an equivalent reduction in those levies will depend on how best to fund the account fully over the next 10 years. This is something the Board must determine.’
The proposals also change the categories for mopeds and motorcycles, by grouping mopeds and motorcycles together and introducing three sub-classes for 0-125 cc, 126-600 cc and 601+ cc cycles."

The most disturbing word in this missive is "likely"... This, to me, suggests interpretation of chosen statistics rather than use of actual facts.

Yes i know, politicians and civil servants do this all the time. But surely this is reason enough for us to feel aggrieved and hard done by?

they paid out over 40 million to rugby players but we dont see them having to put up any more money oh the govt is also giving them more money to fund the world cup perhaps that money should go to fund the acc deficiet

**chrispy121** · 14th October 2009, 19:44

perheps a rugby uniform is better than leathers then we can say we were playing rugby and a bike fell out of the sky and flattened me

**mossy1200** · 14th October 2009, 19:44

Originally Posted by jimbo600

I was thinking the same thing. Surely some smart lawyer type on KB could clarify.

Im thinking if the claim is lodged then they must appear.thats 10000 appearances if we do one each.

**BladeBoy** · 14th October 2009, 19:44

yep fuck those guys who sit in a office and make rules. i bet no one at the acc ride. im up for a good protest. my bike is my only form of transport as i dont like cars but i cant afford to pay 500 just for rego, by the time you add in insurance, wof, 1 set of tyres,1 set of chain and sprockets, 2 oil changes etc your looking at $2000 a year just to keep a 250. id hate to imagine how much more its going to hurt you guys on the bigger bikes.

**Bangbug** · 14th October 2009, 19:45

Originally Posted by chrispy121

they paid out over 40 million to rugby players but we dont see them having to put up any more money oh the govt is also giving them more money to fund the world cup perhaps that money should go to fund the acc deficiet

Free to air MOTO GP & WSBK for the year would be cheaper than the world cup.
That'd be sweet

**sleemanj** · 14th October 2009, 19:47

Originally Posted by mossy1200

Im thinking if the claim is lodged then they must appear.thats 10000 appearances if we do one each.

To lodge the claim, you need to detail the dispute, what exactly are you and the government disputing.

I expect you would not be permitted to lodge the dispute at all. And all you'll succeed in doing is ticking off tribunal administrative staff.

And you probably have forgotten there is a cost involved anyway.

**chrispy121** · 14th October 2009, 19:48

Originally Posted by Bangbug

Free to air MOTO GP & WSBK for the year would be cheaper than the world cup.
That'd be sweet

yep then I can cancil my sky sport subscription any put that money toward the new levie problem solved

**mossy1200** · 14th October 2009, 19:49

News at 10.30 is going to spell out the acc hike on our incomes to add some hurt and they are talking well into the hundreds each per year plus 4cents more on petrol plus extra on cars.Im expecting my wife and I will be down 1.5-2g per year.

**rosie631** · 14th October 2009, 19:49

Originally Posted by tigertim20

Its fucking bullshit. I for one will be riding with a WOF and reg on hold permanently. I refuse to fucking pay that shit.

Yep, me too mate. Just been through my bike insurance policy with a fine tooth comb and no mention of bike having to be registered. Bike and car rego both due to expire in the next couple of weeks and they are BOTH going on hold.
ACC CAN GO AND FUCK THEMSELVES

And Katman or anyone else, if you're about to make a sanctimonious remark about people not paying their reg and still being covered by ACC - call the Waaambulance, when I'm given the option of finding my own ACC cover i will do so, but I refuse to pay these exorbitant compulsory levies.

**rosie631** · 14th October 2009, 19:51

Oh, btw for anyone intending not to register their vehicles make sure you put the rego on hold. Otherwise, if you ever do re register the pricks will want their back dated pound of flesh.

**Insanity_rules** · 14th October 2009, 19:51

Did ya see the news? http://www.3news.co.nz/ACC-costs-up-...0/Default.aspx We need to protest and hard!

**6ft5** · 14th October 2009, 19:56

this is outrageous, if they need the money put it on those that spend time on the road through petrol, not on rego

**craisin** · 14th October 2009, 19:56

the first accident I had on my moped i got knocked off by a car with the wrong plates on and the did the runner while my leg was trapped under my bent machine.
I had to ride the bent machine home cause i was skint and too sore to walk

WINZ wouldnt lend me the money to go to the doctors so it took me 5 days to get to the doctors and I had to go back the next week before they discovered my tailbone was fractured.

I get stuff all off ACC and if I pay more money Im sure I will get less

I put my reg on hold before this latest news about increase

**peasea** · 14th October 2009, 19:56

Originally Posted by Insanity_rules

Did ya see the news? http://www.3news.co.nz/ACC-costs-up-...0/Default.aspx We need to protest and hard!

What do you (or anyone else for that matter) suggest we do? A ride to Welly, en masse? They'll laugh in our faces. They're already laughing at us actually.