Christchurch bikers

**sellywin** · 15th October 2009, 07:36

How about we walk our bikes down Blenheim road into town... all take a lane and slow the traffic, show them that we won't ride if they charge us heaps.

**derfel** · 15th October 2009, 07:47

Wouldn't "blocking" main thoroughfares cause the wrong kind of frustration for other road users and possibly cause an accident? Adding to ACC stats... A protest outside ACC perhaps? I know they aren't the organ grinder but it would still draw media attention. Run a petition around the protests and in conjunction with other motorcycling groups nationwide take the petitions to Parliament.
ACC stats are missing the important issue as to why motorcyclists are 16x (apparently) more likely to have an accident. Poor road surfaces for one, we might want to point that out when presenting our case. I own 3 road bikes for which I pay levies every time I register them. 1 rider, 1 levy. Right?
Also they state that car drivers are subsidising m/c's by $77 a year currently... I also drive a car as well as ride, so effectively I'm subsidising myself. Right?
We must do something. What ever we decide to do, let's make it a good one and throw aside any brand bike issues we may hold. Solidarity Brothers and Sisters!

**Okey Dokey** · 15th October 2009, 08:09

Yes, solidarity! This means we don't want to alienate other road users, we want them to join us on this issue so we have more numbers. Protest to get attention and target politicians, not to ruin another person's day.

**who_me_33** · 15th October 2009, 08:20

Originally Posted by derfel

A protest outside ACC perhaps? I know they aren't the organ grinder but it would still draw media attention.

To me this is the option that makes the most sense, or even converge there at the end.

ACC stats are missing the important issue as to why motorcyclists are 16x (apparently) more likely to have an accident.

Also with this figure, (and I know it is the one that is being fed to everyone by ACC / govt) is it taking into account all the fender benders that car drivers have, as I'm sure that would alter it a bit, (seeing as a lot higher percentage of small motorcycle accidents would warrant an acc claim, compared to that of minor car accidents).

**sammcj** · 15th October 2009, 08:24

Originally Posted by who_me_33

To me this is the option that makes the most sense, or even converge there at the end.

Also with this figure, (and I know it is the one that is being fed to everyone by ACC / govt) is it taking into account all the fender benders that car drivers have, as I'm sure that would alter it a bit, (seeing as a lot higher percentage of small motorcycle accidents would warrant an acc claim, compared to that of minor car accidents).

I bet you Elderly people are 16x more likely to cause a crash than any motorcyclist...

-Sorry to sound agest here, but I'm constantly afraid of elderly people being indecisive and illogical on NZ roads when I'm on my bike.

**Scouse** · 15th October 2009, 08:34

Originally Posted by knuckles24

Well we have all seen the proposed ACC levy legislation towards bikers, what are we going to do about it, any ideas (and please be serious) as this is a serious problem, if you have any ideas would love to hear them and then we can work something out, i suggest other regions make a stand and do the same thing

Well for starters you all could have voted for Labour in the last election.

**sellywin** · 15th October 2009, 09:09

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...d.php?t=109950

This is a good idea, maybe we could do something similiar... it'd be good if we could get the whole country at the same time doing it

**derfel** · 15th October 2009, 10:08

Originally Posted by Scouse

Well for starters you all could have voted for Labour in the last election.

Labour is why ACC is in the state it's in now, or did they forget to mention that when handing over..?

**sammcj** · 15th October 2009, 10:10

Originally Posted by derfel

Labour is why ACC is in the state it's in now, or did they forget to mention that when handing over..?

Let's not start flaming this!

Both Labour and the Nat's are shocking (not to say many of the others are better).

**derfel** · 15th October 2009, 10:23

Also with this figure, (and I know it is the one that is being fed to everyone by ACC / govt) is it taking into account all the fender benders that car drivers have, as I'm sure that would alter it a bit, (seeing as a lot higher percentage of small motorcycle accidents would warrant an acc claim, compared to that of minor car accidents).[/QUOTE]

Good point! Seeing those of us that like to ride

our m/c's in shorts, t-shirt, sand shoes and no gloves irks me.

Fall off at 20k's dressed like that and get those ACC stats buzzing.

**who_me_33** · 15th October 2009, 10:29

Yes, that doesn't help the statistics, but thats more of another argument for another thread.

**Quasievil** · 15th October 2009, 10:33

Originally Posted by Scouse

Well for starters you all could have voted for Labour in the last election.

labour turned ACC into a welfare system........as opposed to a Accident compensation system

**Oakie** · 15th October 2009, 12:02

Originally Posted by Okey Dokey

This means we don't want to alienate other road users, we want them to join us on this issue so we have more numbers. Protest to get attention and target politicians, not to ruin another person's day.

Exactly. Oddly, many car drivers seem to be on our side. The last thing we should do is alienate them.

**knuckles24** · 15th October 2009, 12:53

Lets do it, we need to organise a day that we can do it, it also has to be legal the last thing we want to portray is a bunch of idiot bikers, i will get in contact with some of the motorbike shops around town, the more bikes we have the better it will look, soladarity and unity, i think protesting outside the ACC office and then around to the city councill offices, not sure about holding up traffic but we will see. If you are in let me know, keep bringing on the suggestions then we will have a game plan. I will keep everyone posted, my number is 0275918523