Well bikers are screwed - ACC levy

[k2w3]

It's not as simple as that, peasea. If you declare it "off road" and nominate a duration, it has to be off road for that duration. If you opt to bring it back on within that period, they back date the charge to the beginning of the period. Best way is to off road it for shorter periods at a time.

[Griffin]

What then? sit quietly and pay the increase?

Or go illegal and don't pay regos?

I would recommend neither... I am totally against the increase and I wouldnt advise anyone to commit a crime - we have no choice but to protest, but this is how cleverly thought out schemes work - and work it will.

[k2w3]

I should add that mine is off road over the winter months, so any action (and I'd be keen to join) hopefully takes place when my notice period expires.

I'm not really your hairy-arsed biker type, but I'll be damned if I'm paying an increase like that, so will be riding tax-free from the point at which it becomes law.

[mossy1200]

It's not as simple as that, peasea. If you declare it "off road" and nominate a duration, it has to be off road for that duration. If you opt to bring it back on within that period, they back date the charge to the beginning of the period. Best way is to off road it for shorter periods at a time.

If its off for longer than three months of the duration then no backpay applies.

[ready4whatever]

Yip sometimes theres alot more to it than meets the eye.

[k2w3]

That's good to know. Just to clarify, if you declare 6 months and want to bring it back at the 5-month mark, there is zero backdated amount, or do they backdate in 3-month blocks?

[Danae]

"ACC – Killing Bikers Faster Than They Kill Themselves"

"I had to give up two wheels to pay for 1 Rego"

I like these

[mossy1200]

That's good to know. Just to clarify, if you declare 6 months and want to bring it back at the 5-month mark, there is zero backdated amount, or do they backdate in 3-month blocks?

zero but you must go past the three month mark.Wife works NZ Post and thats how system works at the moment.Hold 12 and can lift after 3 etc.

[k2w3]

In that case I look forward to joining the ride. It was either that or load the Blackbird onto the back of the ute, which is still tempting, tbh.

[5150]

And finally one from mr Plod himself courtesy of Stuff.co.nz

Speaking as a front line Police officer of 20 years plus I can confidently say that the majority of bike riders are responsible and careful. More often than not they come off second best trying to avoid a situation that is not of their making but unfortunately come off second best as well. In any case it is far more likely that a learner on a 250 cc bike is going to have a mishap due to inexperience than a seasoned rider on a big bike. The CC argument doesn't stack up. I was about to buy a larger bike again to travel to work to save on petrol but this won't be an option now. What I can see happening is thousands of bike riders not paying their rego's or putting them on hold most of the year. Why wouldn't they, how many times do you get stopped every year by the Police. The fine is only $200, do the maths.

[Reckless]

The freckin National Govt will put the fines up pretty quick!!

Then the scabs like council parking wardens will pounce for no rego as well!!

My wife went to Auck for a coarse yesterday. The Auck City Council Maggots where still on the bus lane with their camera taking pics and ticketing even though the buses where on strike!! Maggots!!

[Danae]

And finally one from mr Plod himself courtesy of Stuff.co.nz

Speaking as a front line Police officer of 20 years plus I can confidently say that the majority of bike riders are responsible and careful. More often than not they come off second best trying to avoid a situation that is not of their making but unfortunately come off second best as well. In any case it is far more likely that a learner on a 250 cc bike is going to have a mishap due to inexperience than a seasoned rider on a big bike. The CC argument doesn't stack up. I was about to buy a larger bike again to travel to work to save on petrol but this won't be an option now. What I can see happening is thousands of bike riders not paying their rego's or putting them on hold most of the year. Why wouldn't they, how many times do you get stopped every year by the Police. The fine is only $200, do the maths.

This guy's the man!

[gsp0702]

Dr Smith said motorcyclists were 16 times more likely than car drivers to be involved in accidents yet car owners were currently subsidising their ACC bills by $70 each.

SO who subsidies the push bike claims, they don't pay a penny in levies! So much for a No-Fault system! I hate they way they have twisted the figures and claim that $62million was claimed for accidents caused by motorcyclists, don't they mean accidents involving motorcyclists? remove the money where other vehicles were found to be at fault and money for tourist accidents and then what is the true claim for local NZ motorcyclists?
You could go one step further and suggest if alcohol or speed were a factor refuse cover as they would be criminals and breaking the law so should be entitled to help. That would give a true realistic cost and I suspect it would mess up their argument!

[Bangbug]

A comment from Stuff.co.nz page. pretty good suggestion me thinks

To all you law abiding motorcyclists. You should look to the 'boy racer' for inspiration at this difficult time. He will get caught, fined, not pay the fine, get more fines , not pay, go to court, get the fines (which could be many thousands) written off and in place get a few hours community work at a weekend. Much cheaper option.

Doing a bit of marshal time at a track sounds like a nice community service pass time
Ran into an American today, he was keen to register his bike in Alaska ($26 for 3 years or something) and have his bike here on "holiday" with him.
Wonder what the ins and outs are of that?

[rustic101]

please feel free to copy paste, adjust and just as you see fit. If it helps