Street Stock 250cc 4-stroke twins

**DELLORTO** · 15th October 2009, 17:15

250 twins would be boring to watch!......there an old saying "only boring people get bored"......in my opinion they'll be funner than 150cc 2t's.

**ducatilover** · 15th October 2009, 18:50

Originally Posted by Hiflyer

Don't those give you infections??

Bad ones!

Originally Posted by meowmix

Its nice that you bring up the BROS while talking about severly underpowered haha. Whats that, 57hp from 650ccs?

I can't find any sheets but basically due to the gearing, the Harley couldn't pull any real top speed. The acceleration doesn't need explanation.
I was actually looking at a BROS for the next step up, Honda powerplant and that 'conservative' state of tune lest them last forever. Or take a hell of alot of modding? Too bad they're hellishly overpriced considering average age/mileage

Yeah the first if them were 57hp, but with a few carefully selected mods they poked happily upwards of 70hp, for a low revving 6v twin that isn't too bad, the close ratio box on some of them were rather nice too and helped the wee party along to the imminent doom of the rider basically.

Very reliable bikes as you say. Don't look at a bros unless you want to spend money on a decent front end, CBR1000RR front end [previous model, not current] will fit straight on. I paid $2000 for mine in 05 with around 29k on the clock, that was a fair price.

**Fluffy Cat** · 18th October 2009, 13:06

Originally Posted by meowmix

It may be the case that 4/ 250s are pretty sleepy, but as chaos says, it is majorly about the ease of entry into the class via both low costs and manageable power. If it doesn't appeal to you, no-ones forcing you to watch or enter.

Dude it was just my view, no i dont like watch but i have been known to enter.
Could work on a short track, no big straights.
Yes lots sort of have them and there are a fair few on trade me but as a racer they are soooo slow.
I guess I am stuck in the 90's with the 400's and the 250's 2stroke that is. These bikes were i guess just a tad more exciting.
The twins look a bit better and are not very powerful but again as stock not very exciting and super stock is the way to go.
The 600's are exciting as are the 1000's but the champs aint packed out like a drift meet or championship.
On the other hand the street races are packed out.
I think i would focus on the twins and 600's. A superstock twin would make a great learner race bike...low power, there are a few around but prob not enough.
Just my opinion, still love my NSR20 and RS250 race bikes but no track near me, so count yourselves lucky.

**ducatilover** · 18th October 2009, 19:14

Nah the twins don't look better than an nc30/35 or an rs250, or later tzr or nsr IMO

Those were sexy and legendary bikes. The only reason I like the twins is it is relatively cheap and an easy entry point for aspiring racers

I would have to agree that they aren't very exciting unless you happen to be the pilot of one.

**DELLORTO** · 18th October 2009, 20:00

Originally Posted by ducatilover

Nah the twins don't look better than an nc30/35 or an rs250, or later tzr or nsr IMO

Those were sexy and legendary bikes. The only reason I like the twins is it is relatively cheap and an easy entry point for aspiring racers

I would have to agree that they aren't very exciting unless you happen to be the pilot of one.

if its just hyosungs it will be shit boring to watch, all though if their doing 180km/h like chaos said {

} it will be funny to watch their frames buckel when they brake into a corner.....

**gatch** · 18th October 2009, 20:12

Originally Posted by Fluffy Cat

I guess I am stuck in the 90's with the 400's and the 250's 2stroke that is. These bikes were i guess just a tad more exciting.

Originally Posted by ducatilover

Nah the twins don't look better than an nc30/35 or an rs250, or later tzr or nsr IMO

Those were sexy and legendary bikes. The only reason I like the twins is it is relatively cheap and an easy entry point for aspiring racers

I would have to agree that they aren't very exciting unless you happen to be the pilot of one.

You boys are right, nc30 is the shit, thankyou

**ducatilover** · 18th October 2009, 20:12

Originally Posted by DELLORTO

if its just hyosungs it will be shit boring to watch, all though if their doing 180km/h like chaos said {

} it will be funny to watch their frames buckel when they brake into a corner.....

Could be quite amusing.....

**ducatilover** · 18th October 2009, 20:17

Originally Posted by gatch

You boys are right, nc30 is the shit, thankyou

Can I ride it yet?

Were you at manfeild yesterday? I watched some of the bikes. Sadly I had some parts to sell at the classics and vintage swap meet, got rid of some 350 chev heads, XU-1 gtr torana parts the boss sold a shitty mk2 zephyr

**Fluffy Cat** · 18th October 2009, 20:19

Sorry ducatilover i meant the twins looked better than the 4/snore stroke 250's. Then again i only meant the SV650 in full F3 trim. Mahnn i be getting some bad rep from this thread. Cool.

**gatch** · 18th October 2009, 20:22

Originally Posted by ducatilover

Can I ride it yet?

Lol keep trying mate

Yeah I shot out to manfield but quit late though, I just got sam the celtic leathers man to sew a zip on my jacket, then got soaked on the way home straight after..

**ducatilover** · 18th October 2009, 20:22

Originally Posted by Fluffy Cat

Sorry ducatilover i meant the twins looked better than the 4/snore stroke 250's. Then again i only meant the SV650 in full F3 trim. Mahnn i be getting some bad rep from this thread. Cool.

Ah well, we are both correct.

**ducatilover** · 18th October 2009, 20:27

Originally Posted by gatch

Lol keep trying mate

Yeah I shot out to manfield but quit late though, I just got sam the celtic leathers man to sew a zip on my jacket, then got soaked on the way home straight after..

Hahaha Good shit dude

**RDjase** · 18th October 2009, 21:03

Originally Posted by gatch

Lol keep trying mate

Yeah I shot out to manfield but quit late though, I just got sam the celtic leathers man to sew a zip on my jacket, then got soaked on the way home straight after..

Sam is putting some armour in my old jacket (bought 22 years ago, $600 of apprentice money then, 4 weeks wages lol)

Have you had a race on that classic(norton?) we were talking about at rd3?

**Ragingrob** · 18th October 2009, 21:40

So has anyone/Chaos actually raced yet?

**RDjase** · 18th October 2009, 22:16

Originally Posted by Ragingrob

So has anyone/Chaos actually raced yet?

His (amcc) meeting got rained out a few weeks ago, I pretty sure he got some track time in before it got cancelled(its back a few pages) , note sure if it was practice or the 1st race.

Taupo in 2 weeks ,Bike rider magazine Summer Series (PMCC) 1st round , entry forms and info at

www.pacclub.co.nz