BIKEOI - When? The final poll

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Bugger! I am due in Welly 2 days later to catch a ferry...would really like to participate so will wait for more definative info...Planning on attending the Bronz meeting tomorrow and have already signed a petition thats going around.I agree with what was said about doing a SLOW ride. A huge group of bikes riding at the speed limit will be really effective. And those t-shirts are cool but how about a HUGE banner saying something like "CAN YA SEE US NOW?????????"

What petition is that i havn't seen one.

[Mom]

Bugger! I am due in Welly 2 days later to catch a ferry...would really like to participate so will wait for more definative info...Planning on attending the Bronz meeting tomorrow and have already signed a petition thats going around.

I agree with what was said about doing a SLOW ride. A huge group of bikes riding at the speed limit will be really effective. And those t-shirts are cool but how about a HUGE banner saying something like "CAN YA SEE US NOW?????????"

Come and find me at the meeting No doubt there will be other things happening for those that cant make the BIKOI.

[buellbabe]

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/nzbikers_vs_acc?e

after clicking on add signature another page came up asking for a donation, if you close out at this stage your signature still appears to go through so no financial worries. sweet.

Will come see you Mom :-)

[klingon]

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If we are going to leave it that late till after the submission cut of date then it's just a waste of time. But we do need to go when paliament is sitting.

Sorry if the long weekend interfers with peoples holiday but we need to strike while the iron is hot and not leave it to be another drawn out campaign.

I strongly disagree. The submissions date is a nominal date set by ACC, and not the actual date that the Minister will be considering submissions. The BIKOI is a demonstration to the minister and his parliamentary colleagues that he will be making a very unpopular move if he goes ahead with the proposed levy rises.

November 17 is exactly the right date to make that point on the steps of Parliament.

Also remember the BIKEOI is only one action. There will be other actions (visible demos as well as submissions, petitions, etc) leading up to that date. On the 17th we will be presenting a petition to the Minister so the more signatures we can get before then, the better.

[StoneY]

What Klingon said

The date works for travellers, locals, and while a touch later than desirable for some, meets the needs

Its got mine and as far as I can see Ixion and the other regional supporters behind that date so far, I think we should now start planning as if thats the day untill further notice

[TerminalAddict]

my vote:
15th for non locals, with the option to stay until the 17th

[buellbabe]

Ditto what Klinon said, this is just one of many actions. I am sure there is more than one petition circulating plus there is nothing stopping ya from sending in you own submission ( I certainly will be ) and if possible join in any organised protest that is happening in your local area if unable to join the Bikeoi.
The more noise we make the more chance we have of being heard.

[Hopeful Bastard]

As much as i would like to say the Sunday 15th, If the Tuesday 17th group goes and rides up to Parliament, People will say that its already been done.. And wont take any interest in it..

The sunday group can ride around Parliament and go do some door knocking on ACC and National...

I dont think my Funds would be enough for me to make both trips down.. But i will try my hardest

[buellbabe]

Just had another thought...No doubt the organisers are already onto it...but just wanted to add that involving the local police of towns the ride will be going through would be a very good piece of PR. You may be surprised just how co-operative they will be.
Whenever I have been involved with huge rides the cops have always had a courtesy visit and as a result have been willing to stop traffic at intersections and that sort of thing...

And the actual ride within Wellington could benefit from a police escort...

Just a thought...

[sunhuntin]

Just had another thought...No doubt the organisers are already onto it...but just wanted to add that involving the local police of towns the ride will be going through would be a very good piece of PR. You may be surprised just how co-operative they will be.
Whenever I have been involved with huge rides the cops have always had a courtesy visit and as a result have been willing to stop traffic at intersections and that sort of thing...

And the actual ride within Wellington could benefit from a police escort...

Just a thought...

thats a good idea, if they are willing to come on board. even if they just allowed a free run through sets of lights so the group can stay together would be a help.
im thinking some of the smaller towns near kapiti coast where theres lots of lights is where they would be best needed.

[StoneY]

Just had another thought...No doubt the organisers are already onto it...but just wanted to add that involving the local police of towns the ride will be going through would be a very good piece of PR. You may be surprised just how co-operative they will be.
Whenever I have been involved with huge rides the cops have always had a courtesy visit and as a result have been willing to stop traffic at intersections and that sort of thing...

And the actual ride within Wellington could benefit from a police escort...

Just a thought...

I have the contact details for the National and Wellington Operation Manager(s)
Regional Organisers have access to that information, and we will be advizing these two gentlemen of our final action plans to ensure the Police are fully briefed and onside as much as possible

Good thinking though BB, I imagine the groups of riders coming through the regions are not exactly going to be one giant convoy from Auck's to Welly....I can only see real group coordination coming together in the last 100kms of the whole run, but I hope I am proven wrong on that

[buellbabe]

Every bit of public friendly stuff we can do is gonna help the cause!

United we stand and all that!

[dpex]

Consensus so far (consensus ? with bikers ) is that it is essential we do the Manchester bit on a weekdays when the droids are actually present.

But, we really want a BIG show of numbers to make a noise around the town

After eliminating every day in the year and adding a few back that leaves two options that seem to have the running :

1. Nov 15th-17th We hold (a) Regional BIKOI in Welly on the Sunday. That works for numbers , (most) people can go down Saturday, back Sunday evening . Then we do the actual Parliament assembly on Tuesday for those who can get the time off (some of the Sunday folk will doubtless stay over)

2. Nov 5th. For symbolic reasons. It's a Thursday so the scheme in (1) won't work, probably not much point in a big assembly after we've fronted up at the Beehive.

I've made this multichoice because some people will be OK with either option. Only a drivelling idiot would also tick the "none of them are any good " option. So well ignore those.

Bugger. 5th is the start of PMCC racing at Taupo. 15th is AMCC track day at Puke (my bikes on loan to two riders).

[Clean_up]

Ive set up a facebook event for the protest ride, so feel free to add yourself to it and invite eveyone you can think of.

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?ei...016422&index=1

[bogan]

Ive set up a facebook event for the protest ride, so feel free to add yourself to it and invite eveyone you can think of.

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?ei...016422&index=1

is that wise? I was under the impression we were going to confer with BRONZ (represented by the good Ixion) and wait for the results from that. In fact I'm fairly sure it has been mentioned elsewhere in this thread, the last thing we need is people getting confused about dates, and generally making us look like a bunch of unorganized rabble. Unless this date has been finalised, though i have seen no thread indicating such.