LASIK vision correction?

[Mully]

Now would you look at that scouse, mully and p-dath not so "perfect" or infallible now is it, and there I was explaining you need to research up the "underbelly" of lasik eye surgery.

Jesus Dean, you really don't listen do you?

Point one: I've just asked him for this "article" (presuming it's not scrawled on a paper towel with a crayon) so I can read up on it. Have you done any research on the issue, other than your "I know someone....." Here's some I've found for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LASIK#P..._complications

Point two: I've known people who had this procedure done 15+ years ago, whose eyes are fine

Point three: The information (as posted by Rayray) is wrong. They don't "slice a layer of your iris(or something, just a layer) to fit with everythingelse" at all - they reshape the front of your eye (which is the cornea, BTW) with a laser to correct the focal point of light on your retina.

Point four: Prior to any surgery, the surgeon will tell you if your eyes are unsuitable - one of the reasons for this is unusual thinness to the bit they want to reshape. I was told they could have done it three or four times if they'd had to on my eyes. They also tell you (again, in advance) that you will probably need reading glasses when you get old.

Point five: They do this in ths USA. Do you honestly think if the information was correct, everyone in the States would have had their pants sued off and would therefore not do it anymore?

Point six: Katman had a pretty nasty complication - and he still recommends having it done

Honestly!!

[SARGE]

Eye surgery obviously can get you blind if the procedure goes wrong I know a lady blind in one eye because of it has ruined her life in so many aspects. Can you accept the risks? I personally wont do it the risk is higher than you think.

meh .. i only have one eye ( not SIGHT in one .. one EYE) .. its fucked up my life too .. i can only ride at 270 because of the depth perception.. i can only skydive 14 times a year and can only scuba to 60m

top it all off - i cant use binoculars or watch 3D movies ... waaaa waaaa waaa

[p.dath]

Now would you look at that scouse, mully and p-dath not so "perfect" or infallible now is it, and there I was explaining you need to research up the "underbelly" of lasik eye surgery.

It's pretty well known that you eyes can change over a 10 year period. This has nothing to do with the procedure, and it not a risk per-see. Your eyes are probably going to change anyway.

If just means you loose some of the benefit as you age. But I want the benefit of better eyes now, and I know I'll probably get that benefit for 10 years.

[Dean]

Jesus Dean, you really don't listen do you?

Honestly!!

Hmmmm the information you provided me seems legit props mully, Im going to an opt for my contacts tommorow so will ask him about this. I still think there is a few niggly details you havent covered.

meh .. i only have one eye ( not SIGHT in one .. one EYE) .. its fucked up my life too .. i can only ride at 270 because of the depth perception.. i can only skydive 14 times a year and can only scuba to 60m

top it all off - i cant use binoculars or watch 3D movies ... waaaa waaaa waaa

Yes but SARGE your way different to her, you can do anything and piss all over it (Im not sucking up) but she is a weak, emotionally unstable women! Cant get her licence apparently they dont allow people who can only operate one eye, cant pursue her career and all sorts.

It's pretty well known that you eyes can change over a 10 year period. This has nothing to do with the procedure, and it not a risk per-see. Your eyes are probably going to change anyway.

If just means you loose some of the benefit as you age. But I want the benefit of better eyes now, and I know I'll probably get that benefit for 10 years.

I see, goodluck with the proccedure fingers crossed they dont do anything wrong! Im fairly sure after the proccedure you cant go out into direct sunlight for a few days, they make you wear sunglasses inside.
Now who is the one putting the annoying tags "dean- the new skidmark" on like every thread I go on, its not even funny man.

[Mully]

Hmmmm the information you provided me seems legit props mully, Im going to an opt for my contacts tommorow so will ask him about this. I still think there is a few niggly details you havent covered.

You do that - and when you get information (proper information, not Chinese whispers heresay) post it here for everyone to read and decide for themselves.

Good boy.

Cant get her licence apparently they dont allow people who can only operate one eye, cant pursue her career and all sorts.

This is bollocks as well - you can get a private pilots licence with one eye. What career is she trying to pursue?

Im fairly sure after the proccedure you cant go out into direct sunlight for a few days, they make you wear sunglasses inside.

Again, they don't make you do anything. I was sensitive to bright light for a few weeks, but never inside, unless I was looking outside at bright sunlight. I had mine done Friday morning and was watching the news at 6pm with no issues. Next day I was out and about (for the follow-up appointment, etc) during the day with sunnies, but nothing spectacular (I would usually wear sunnies anyway)

Now who is the one putting the annoying tags "dean- the new skidmark" on like every thread I go on, its not even funny man.

Wrong again - it is funny. Very funny. Only you can change people's opinion of you, Deano.

[Dean]

[/QUOTE]This is bollocks as well - you can get a private pilots licence with one eye. What career is she trying to pursue?[/QUOTE]



[/QUOTE]Again, they don't make you do anything.[/QUOTE]
Sorry I meant to say they dont "make" you do anything but they "advise" you to not go in direct sunlight as the healing process is delicate.

[/QUOTE]Wrong again - it is funny. Very funny. Only you can change people's opinion of you, Deano.[/QUOTE]

I cant change people's opinions, they do it to get me peed off no matter what I do or say. Just the way it is I guess, I wonder how many years it will take for people to forget about yb16.

[Mully]

Funny, I thought the wanted one eyed cops.......

Heh

Sorry I meant to say they dont "make" you do anything but they "advise" you to not go in direct sunlight as the healing process is delicate.

Indeed. The short version is "If it hurts your eyes, stop doing it". I believe people heal (and can stand bright light) at different rates.

I cant change people's opinions, they do it to get me peed off no matter what I do or say. Just the way it is I guess, I wonder how many years it will take for people to forget about yb16.

People will bring YB16 up for ages - particularly (my favourites) the taking the shirt off to fight thing and the Korea invading the States (tick, tock Korea, times-a-wasting) thing - simply as a piss take.

No-one here is particularly malicious in any way, it's usually gentle ribbing.

If, however, you continue to engage your mouth before engaging your brain, then you will keep getting ripped on.

The trouble, Deany-Pants, is that you blunder into a thread with forehead-slappingly silly things to say. Try this: Imagine this is a real-life conversation (with grown-ups, not your actual friends). Would you blunder out saying the things you're typing. I hope not.

If you had come into this thread saying "I don't like the idea of LASIK - this is why... " and proceeded to make a good point ("I hate people playing near my eyes" is a valid one) or found information on the internet that supports your point. "I know a woman....." is NOT a good argument, regardless of whether you actually know her or not.

Justify my faith in you, Dean-a-rama. Act like a grown up, people will treat you like a grown up. You will have to accept that people will bring up YB16 - either ignore it or play along.

Good luck.

[p.dath]

Had my consultation with the Auckland Eye Clinic this morning. I'm a good candidate for Lasik with a very low risk factor.
They said I'm likely to need reading glasses in the next 10 years or so, but my general eye sight should remain fine.

I was very impressed with their kit!
Basically they took my prescription by simply having me look into a machine. It measured my eye, showed me one custom chart to verify its measurements were correct, and then spat out the numbers.
They then took me to another machine which mapped out my eyeballs. It produced pretty "maps" of each eye, showing the exact imperfections so they could verify what needs to be done.

I found out my astigmatism actually extends over and into my eye (you might say I have two astigmatisms).

They did say I should avoid the track for 4 weeks after the operation to insure the flap has strongly bonded back to the rest of the eye (otherwise the g-forces could potentially cause damage).
As I have an ART day on the 15th of November, I'll probably have procedure done after that.


So far the experience has been very positive.

[YellowDog]

Hmmmm the information you provided me seems legit props mully, Im going to an opt for my contacts tommorow so will ask him about this. I still think there is a few niggly details you havent covered.

Yes but SARGE your way different to her, you can do anything and piss all over it (Im not sucking up) but she is a weak, emotionally unstable women! Cant get her licence apparently they dont allow people who can only operate one eye, cant pursue her career and all sorts.

I see, goodluck with the proccedure fingers crossed they dont do anything wrong! Im fairly sure after the proccedure you cant go out into direct sunlight for a few days, they make you wear sunglasses inside.
Now who is the one putting the annoying tags "dean- the new skidmark" on like every thread I go on, its not even funny man.

Dean, you are hillarious and I don't think you mean to be.

Why don't you go into the Pie Shop and ask if you should switch to Burgers?

Same thing, but even with contact lenses I doubt you will be able to see it.

[bungbung]

I had LASIK about 10 years ago, this is the variety where a flap is cut and the laser cuts away underneath before the flap is dropped back on top.

The only side effect has been a slight haloing around lights at night.
I went from 3/6 to 12/6 vision, I was myopic (can't remember how much, -4?)

6 workmates have had the procedure. One man (60 ish) needed the procedure repeated but required corrective lenses 24 months later. The others have had a similar experience to me.

If you can afford it, and you are a suitable candidate and prepared to take the (small) risk then do it, sooner than later.

[YellowDog]

Had my consultation with the Auckland Eye Clinic this morning. I'm a good candidate for Lasik with a very low risk factor.
They said I'm likely to need reading glasses in the next 10 years or so, but my general eye sight should remain fine.

I was very impressed with their kit!
Basically they took my prescription by simply having me look into a machine. It measured my eye, showed me one custom chart to verify its measurements were correct, and then spat out the numbers.
They then took me to another machine which mapped out my eyeballs. It produced pretty "maps" of each eye, showing the exact imperfections so they could verify what needs to be done.

I found out my astigmatism actually extends over and into my eye (you might say I have two astigmatisms).

They did say I should avoid the track for 4 weeks after the operation to insure the flap has strongly bonded back to the rest of the eye (otherwise the g-forces could potentially cause damage).
As I have an ART day on the 15th of November, I'll probably have procedure done after that.


So far the experience has been very positive.

PD, that all sounds great.

Didn't they also hit your eye ball with a little hammer to measure the corneal thickness?

I loved all the fancy graphics and presentions but at the time I was playing a lot of sports.

The flap issue was a show stopper for me and hence I went for the EK rather than the IK procedure. Your eye is much stronger after an EK procedure, though there are some minor drawbacks.

[peasea]

PD, that all sounds great.

Didn't they also hit your eye ball with a little hammer to measure the corneal thickness?

I loved all the fancy graphics and presentions but at the time I was playing a lot of sports.

The flap issue was a show stopper for me and hence I went for the EK rather than the IK procedure. Your eye is much stronger after an EK procedure, though there are some minor drawbacks.

Like a foreskin?

[Thani-B]

Awww see now this is just making me want to get mine done even more

[p.dath]

...Didn't they also hit your eye ball with a little hammer to measure the corneal thickness?
...
The flap issue was a show stopper for me and hence I went for the EK rather than the IK procedure. Your eye is much stronger after an EK procedure, though there are some minor drawbacks.

With a hammer? You must be teasing. The mapping machine looked like it was using a laser to map my eye. All I could see was a red light that kept flashing off and on. Once it was done the mapping output produced a coloured chart showing the corneal thickness of the entire cornea (different colours representing different thicknesses), and a bunch of statistics showing the thinnest part of the cornea, thickest part, etc. On average my cornea was about 50 microns thicker than average, which was one of the reasons I was a good candidate for Lasik.

They also suggest I consider the older PRK method, as you say, because it does not involve cutting the cornea, and as a result will leave it stronger. They also told me the US airforce allows their pilots that pull 8G to have their eyes lasered using the same LASIK method they use - and if the flaps in their eyes can stand 8G I should be fine.

PRK has a longer recovery time. Although if you factor in the 4 weeks they recommend if I use LASIK it's not that much different ...


I asked them the percentage of people getting PRK, and they said almost zero. No one is electing to use it. Typically only those that can have LASIK done use PRK.

[imdying]

Im fairly sure after the proccedure you cant go out into direct sunlight for a few days, they make you wear sunglasses inside.

In my case it was so effective that I was able to stop in at the dairy on the way home (someone else driving because of the 'happy' drugs they give you) and buy a V. I was riding my bike (visor down, foreign object damage is the biggest risk/concern) the next day. Literally 2 minutes after the op I could see 1000 times better, it was truly shocking.

/edit: Can't tell you what type I had done. Can tell you that it's the type where they cut the flap with a rotary tool and a cutting disc. Was superceded by using a laser to cut the flap method. They used some sort of 3D scanner to topographically map the thickness of my cornea.