Southland Times this morning (3 Nov), bike 'accident' pic

[Danae]

But of course we'll assume the motorcyclist was travelling at the speed limit.

So if the biker were travelling at the speed limit or less then the old lady would have magically seen him and magically avoided him? If she didn't see him going whatever speed he was doing, she wouldn't have seen him with 10km/hr difference (up or down).

[Fatjim]

So if the biker were travelling at the speed limit or less then the old lady would have magically seen him and magically avoided him? If she didn't see him going whatever speed he was doing, she wouldn't have seen him with 10km/hr difference (up or down).

If a chick can get it, why or why can't Katman?

[dipshit]

how does that work?? it your going straight and someone is at a giveway sign in a sidestreet you are approaching they have to give way to you, it doesnt matter what speed you are going

So you think you could ride through the centre of town at 200kph and everybody will giveway to you...??

And as for the lights/siren at least 7 out of every 10 rescue vehicle i see speeding do not have these on unless coming up to a intersection,

There you have it. "unless coming up to a intersection" That's the bit that counts. They need to let people know at intersections that they are travelling at higher speeds... so extra distance to giveway with is needed.

[brendonjw]

So you think you could ride through the centre of town at 200kph and everybody will giveway to you...??





There you have it. "unless coming up to a intersection" That's the bit that counts. They need to let people know at intersections that they are travelling at higher speeds... so extra distance to giveway with is needed.

Of course i wouldnt ride through town that fast, thats just plain stupid, but in theory if they are sitting at a giveway sign and you are going straight, then yes they should give way to you, its in black and white (and i think the pictures are even in colour in the road code!! Now of course people dont follow the road code and dont always give way and in those instances we arrive at what happened today, which is someone not following the road code and causing a accident.
As for the intersection bit, a giveway sign on a side street it just a T junction to them, they expect anyone on them to give way like they are suposed to.... so they dont put it on for them, its traffic lights, and round abouts that they put them on for, or for the muppets that never use their rear view mirrors and dont pull to the side of the road

[yachtie10]

So you think you could ride through the centre of town at 200kph and everybody will giveway to you...??

200 kph is a bit of a stretch isn't it?
any if there was evidence that the motorcyclist was speeding it is usually mentioned that excess speed was involved by the media

There you have it. "unless coming up to a intersection" That's the bit that counts. They need to let people know at intersections that they are travelling at higher speeds... so extra distance to giveway with is needed.

Bollocks
they use there sirens when they need to give way

dont know why you and Katman want to view it from the worst perspective

[dipshit]

Of course i wouldnt ride through town that fast, thats just plain stupid

And why is that..??

[Katman]

So if the biker were travelling at the speed limit or less then the old lady would have magically seen him and magically avoided him? If she didn't see him going whatever speed he was doing, she wouldn't have seen him with 10km/hr difference (up or down).

If a chick can get it, why or why can't Katman?

But she doesn't get it, does she?

Have you not seen the ad currently playing on TV saying "If he'd been travelling at 50kph he'd have stopped here, but because he was travelling at 60kph he stopped here (lamp post)"?

[dipshit]

200 kph is a bit of a stretch isn't it?

It's just an example to make a point.

Bollocks
they use there sirens when they need to give way

...??? So if you are at an intersection and you see an ambulance or fire engine with its lights and sirens going... you think they are signalling that they are giving way and it is okay for you to go..???

dont know why you and Katman want to view it from the worst perspective

Because a lot of motorcyclists simply don't think and fail to see things from other road user's perspective.

[scumdog]

Because a lot of motorcyclists simply don't think and fail to see things from other road user's perspective.

Ain't THAT the truth!

[Fatjim]

But she doesn't get it, does she?

Have you not seen the ad currently playing on TV saying "If he'd been travelling at 50kph he'd have stopped here, but because he was travelling at 60kph he stopped here (lamp post)"?

If someone pulls out in front of you when your doing 60k and you hit them, would 10k make a difference? yes, some. But if you were doing 50k, they still shouldn't have pulled out in front of you.

Oh, and by the way, why was the guy inthe add sliding all over the road in the first place? Thats the real problem.

[scumdog]

If someone pulls out in front of you when your doing 60k and you hit them, would 10k make a difference? yes, some. But if you were doing 50k, they still shouldn't have pulled out in front of you.

Oh, and by the way, why was the guy sliding all over the road in the first place? Thats the real problem.

True.

But the impact might be less - or non-existent.

[dipshit]

If someone pulls out in front of you when your doing 60k and you hit them, would 10k make a difference? yes, some. But if you were doing 50k, they still shouldn't have pulled out in front of you.

Or what about 75kph? Or 80kph? Or 90kph?

At what point over the normal flow of traffic would you expect other traffic to misjudge your rate of closure? (leaving aside the how long it would take you to stop bit for now)

[Katman]

If someone pulls out in front of you when your doing 60k and you hit them, would 10k make a difference? yes, some. But if you were doing 50k, they still shouldn't have pulled out in front of you.

Oh, and by the way, why was the guy inthe add sliding all over the road in the first place? Thats the real problem.

We could sit here and split hairs all day but the fact is that if you stop with only centimetres to spare at 50kph then you have shit show of stopping in time from 60kph.

It's called logic.

[mdooher]

True.

But the impact might be less - or non-existent.

hmm sideways at 60km/h for what looked like 10m or so....Bullshit....I bet you can't do it...

The idea of these adverts is great...but at least make them plausable

[mdooher]

and on that subject how about a cop standing by the door of the parked car saying " I'm giving you a ticket for carelessly opening a door" THAT was the real cause of this accident.