Single Flat Rate ACC Levy per road user?

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

None of these things will help ACC get sold to IAG

i know that and I don't want it sold if implimented makes it harder to sell

ithe traffic account does get sold then they will have to drop the levy on fuel as it is

What we should have is single flat rate ACC levy per NZ citizenship/residency.

That way cyclists, horse riders, and rugby players are levied too.
Also including prone-to-fall elderlies.

Flat rate ensures a no-fault and non user-pays system (i.e., ACC not being an insurance scheme).

A human levy...

so I would be subsidising all the cluz out there (oh wait I am anyway)

[Pedrostt500]

100% Levy on traffic infringements,
$50 levy when you buy a vehicle paid on change of ownership,
$5 levy on WoF, 6moths, $10 for a year.

these alone would generate more than enough money for the traffic account, nearing 800million dollars (at present the traffic account is 650ish million)

Put token levy on vehicle rego even across the board.

Rejoin all the accounts ACC was designed to operate with the seperate accounts



While in theory it sounds good and easy, doing this during a recession is not good as it will increase the cost of living, price of food goes up, transport cost rise and all gets past on to the consumer who hasn't had a pay rise in 2 years.

100% Levy on traffic infringments.
Alot of traffic infringements get wiped by the courts, or reduced by doing comunity service.

$50 levey on vechicle change of ownership.
What about private vechicle sales.

$5 levey on WOF.
So now you want your local garage to have to pass on the levy to, as well as deal with all the other stuff that goes into running a Busness.


A flat fee per Litre of fuel, would cover all motoring related costs, also completely wiping the ACC Levey on REG, the only fly in the ointment is when 100% electric vechicles become more common, though thiese could be charged with their REG.
I would also like to see a flat rate levey on all domestic dwellings collected with the rates to off set accidents in and around the home.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

100% Levy on traffic infringments.
Alot of traffic infringements get wiped by the courts, or reduced by doing comunity service.

the infringement can be wiped if the court decides but the ACC levy should not... No different asking the crims to pay a $50 levy as they are to start doing...

I don't see the problem

$50 levey on vechicle change of ownership.
What about private vechicle sales.

when you change ownership papers it is $50 to do so

I don't see the problem

$5 levey on WOF.
So now you want your local garage to have to pass on the levy to, as well as deal with all the other stuff that goes into running a Busness.

I don't see the problem.. welcome to world of running a business.

A flat fee per Litre of fuel, would cover all motoring related costs, also completely wiping the ACC Levey on REG, the only fly in the ointment is when 100% electric vechicles become more common, though thiese could be charged with their REG.

I see increase in living costs and inflation, as transport costs go up, increasing the cost of consumer end products, from food, milk to other essentials as the levy is passed on to the end user. Yet there will be no pay increase for that is covering it.

I would also like to see a flat rate levey on all domestic dwellings collected with the rates to off set accidents in and around the home.

Thats is what your ACC levy in PAYE is for, which covers anything you do as a citizen and technically should cover you riding your motorcycle. Your rego levy should only be a top up

ACC was never designed to have the seperate accounts and needs to go back to the super account.

[Jantar]

100% Levy on traffic infringments.
Alot of traffic infringements get wiped by the courts, or reduced by doing comunity service.
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It would be a surcharge on the fine, not the fine itself. So even if the fine is eventually remitted by the court, the surcharge would still stand.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

None of these things will help ACC get sold to IAG

not my problem...

[TygerTung]

I reckon a flat rate for all road motor vehicle users.

Pushbikes and horses certainly should NOT be levied, as there is no way to police it, plus a lot of people with no money, kids etc ride pushbikes. Also the use of pushbikes should be encouraged as they save the environment, reduce congestion, and improve the health of people using them. (As long as they don't crash)

[BMWST?]

[QUOTE=StoneY;1129508260]

Why not???
Coveres every Petrol/Diesel user, fairly too based on consumption. Be it a Chain Saw, a Concrete cutter, generaotor on a builders site, consumption = exact recovery of risk via use

And EQUITABLY at that
Other such levys could be: 10% of value on safety gear (potentially this would be not good but has been suggested), levy tyres (get the user on a per km basis that way) Bikes would by default pay a little more if on tyres as we use em faster than a cage does

Many options, but Fuel is a good one IMO

not fair.I have an 1990 BMW car in mint condition.I dont drive it much but it aint very economical.Why should i pay your acc levies and aucklands roads and .............

[BMWST?]

It would be a surcharge on the fine, not the fine itself. So even if the fine is eventually remitted by the court, the surcharge would still stand.

a lot of fines dont get paid now....

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

[QUOTE=StoneY;1129508260]

And EQUITABLY at that
Other such levys could be: 10% of value on safety gear (potentially this would be not good but has been suggested), levy tyres (get the user on a per km basis that way) Bikes would by default pay a little more if on tyres as we use em faster than a cage does

Disagree with levy on safety gear if anything you should be geting a discount...

Tyres, oil, petrol, hmmm interesting, but those on the smaller bikes, there would be arguements for and against, like the tyre you choose is already $320 and pay levy of $32 because it is the best for your bike, and it only gives 5000k or simply choose an a cheaper typer at $200 with a levy of $20 and it lasts 10,000k but you have more accidents because it crap tyre...

[Jantar]

a lot of fines dont get paid now....

So? This suggestion is not a fine, it is a surcharge on a fine, so once earned would stay with that person till it is paid or the person is declared bankrupt.

Yes, there will be some who would declare bankruptcy rather than pay, but then the consequences of that would stay with them a lot longer than the original surcharge would. Most fines are paid, and so would the surcharge be paid.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

a lot of fines dont get paid now....

as he said the fine can be dropped by the court but the levy still has to be paid... same as they are going to make all the crims pay a $50 levy, no difference

[BMWST?]

as he said the fine can be dropped by the court but the levy still has to be paid... same as they are going to make all the crims pay a $50 levy, no difference

there is a huge ammount owing on fines....many people just dont pay them.The acc levy must be a part of registering the vehicle or renewing your liceense..Or move away from that altogether and just make it part of income tax.Then everybody pays....

[Jantar]

......The acc levy must be a part of registering the vehicle or renewing your liceense......

There are an awful lot of unregistered vehicles out more. Many more percenatge wise than there are unpaid fines.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

there is a huge ammount owing on fines....many people just dont pay them.The acc levy must be a part of registering the vehicle or renewing your liceense..Or move away from that altogether and just make it part of income tax.Then everybody pays....

Huge ammount of unregistered vehicles on the road...


Income tax, not every one works, that is on the road... we already paye a levy via PAYE

[FastBikeGear]

A flat fee per Litre of fuel, would cover all motoring related costs, also completely wiping the ACC Levey on REG...

No this wouldn't be fair big someone driving a gas guzzler car or truck, would be paying more per kilometer than someone riding a moped, sccoter or smaller bike.

We want a fair system - not one that just suits us.