Moto Guzzi V12 & V7 Clubman Racer

**SDU** · 16th November 2009, 11:17

They do look awesome-something to think about. I love the sound off a meaty twin- Can't wait to get new mufflers-the originals make the bike sounds pathetic (especially after riding the MKIII/V11)
As for the rear shocks maybe I need to eat more pies & chocolate. Most people find them fine standard.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 16th November 2009, 17:16

That Clubman makes me damp. Having said that why not 1000 cc and like 100 Hp and some decent torques? 49 hp is taking the piss. It wouldnt pull an old lady off a cast iron pisspot. Particularly when it weighs a metric lot.

but I wonder what it will be worth??? Enquiring minds and all.

Then again, its a custom seat, custom sidecovers, and paint. So you could do similar to any tube frame guzz, right?

**HenryDorsetCase** · 16th November 2009, 17:19

Originally Posted by SDU

Thanks. I have already ordered the trimuph aftermarket ones when I bought bike- they should be here soon. Hadn't heard the thunderbike mufflers on a thruxton.
I have a new set off rear shocks ordered already as I find I bounce & wallow a bit going through corners espec noticeable once I was able to push it a bit more after the 1st service. The adjustment able to make to them firms the rear too much for me (might have been alright for a bigger person). It might be just the way I ride -after all I have mainly ridden Guzzi's -so different to the thruxton. unlike the V11 there is no real playing with the suspension set up & no dampening but up side the gearbox works every gear change - no clunkiness wots with that

There a couple of miner changes I'll make eventually to make it mine- money tree planted

Just be aware Thunderbike "mufflers" are REALLY FUCKING LOUD. Ive got them on the Scrambler. I dont mind it but it does piss the neighbours off a bit.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 16th November 2009, 17:21

custom Guzzis on the Kneeslider:

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/20...zzi-makeovers/

I had that purple one as my PC wallpaper for a while

**Dodgyiti** · 16th November 2009, 18:25

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

but I wonder what it will be worth??? Enquiring minds and all.

Then again, its a custom seat, custom sidecovers, and paint. So you could do similar to any tube frame guzz, right?

I estimate around 20 grand.
And yes, you could build one quite cheaply from a Targa750 or 750-T.The petrol tank is $1,235 ex-Italy and is the only 'special' Guzzi only part, the rest is easy enough to replicate.

**Dodgyiti** · 16th November 2009, 18:28

I'll add this link so SDU can dream about custom Mk3's as well.

http://www.bikeexif.com/moto-guzzi-le-mans-cafe-racer

And here is how they did it;

http://www.glossylifestyle.com/pics/guzzi/

**Molly** · 16th November 2009, 19:20

SDU. Thanks for the advice re. the WoF. Good to have somebody who knows not to shove a jack in the middle of your sump. All good and legal again. Much appreciated.

Re. the Triumph mufflers. I had Triumph Off Road (TORs) on my Scrambler and they sounded SHIT! Thunderbike mufflers on my Speedmaster were better sounding I have to say. Know a bloke in ChCh with a Thruxton like yours with Arrow pipes. They look bloody cool. He works for Christchurch Motorcycles out on Wigram Road and uses the bike for work. I'm sure he wouldn't mind you having a listen (name's Squid - nice bloke).

:-)

**Beeza** · 17th November 2009, 11:35

If you build any bike to look cobby and lithe, like a pukka race-bike, it would help enormously if it actually won some races.

Ducati know that; Guzzi somehow lost that thread in the Fifties, even before the absolutely fabulous-looking Le Mans 850.

A shaft-driven transverse V-twin in a modest state of tune simply can't win races these days. That's a motor strictly for cruising and touring and commuting only. With the old V50, the 850T, 1000SP and the Norge at least the form and the function are fully combined.

Guzzi are trapped in a time-warp with that V2 motor. It's time for a new watercooled four or a six with chain drive and designed to win real races.

**SDU** · 17th November 2009, 12:54

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

Just be aware Thunderbike "mufflers" are REALLY FUCKING LOUD. Ive got them on the Scrambler. I dont mind it but it does piss the neighbours off a bit.

Thanks for the heads up- the neighbours are probably already pissed off with my partners rattly bloody clutch

Thanks Molly, I'll keep that in mind.

**SDU** · 17th November 2009, 12:57

Originally Posted by Dodgyiti

I'll add this link so SDU can dream about custom Mk3's as well.

http://www.bikeexif.com/moto-guzzi-le-mans-cafe-racer

And here is how they did it;

http://www.glossylifestyle.com/pics/guzzi/

You're such a tease

**Dodgyiti** · 17th November 2009, 16:46

Originally Posted by Beeza

If you build any bike to look cobby and lithe, like a pukka race-bike, it would help enormously if it actually won some races.

Ducati know that; Guzzi somehow lost that thread in the Fifties, even before the absolutely fabulous-looking Le Mans 850.

A shaft-driven transverse V-twin in a modest state of tune simply can't win races these days. .

Sorry, going to have to haul you up on this:

The Mk1 had a moderately successfull production racing career in 76/77, as did the 750 Sport in 72/3 and then the Mk5 in the hands of Dr John in the late 80's and again in the mid 90's with the Daytona and the MG01 in the last few years doing battle of the twins. It just seems like they did not much since the 50's (before that they were quite dominant for the size of the factory) and having the factory halt all racing efforts in the 50's does not help. It has only been privateer efforts since then, and to have any success without a factory interested in racing is no mean feat.

Wining races these days? Sure, but have you seen any post classic racing in NZ lately?? Sidecar in that with a pretty mellow tuned shaftie doing quite well thank you, and there are some up and coming solos just built to watch out for as well.

**dangerous** · 17th November 2009, 17:11

Originally Posted by nudemetalz

yummmmy...............

How did I miss a Guzzi thread... you lot are getting slack.

Right... they look shitter than a shitty thing, posing on crap like that is not what MG is about "no sir I dont like it"
Now Id love to see the LaMans name come back (altho it would mean I wouldent have the very last one any more) but it would have to be in keeping with what the leMans is about, and thats a racey tourer, this crap of finishing the body work over the rear axel and exposing the back half of the wheel is terrable, let the nips and motoGP bikes do it.

**Ghost_Bullet** · 19th November 2009, 16:17

I missed this one to, but saw these vids this morning...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j_U2y3VZDI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnr3WLAnnGA
Not sure if I like or not... yeah I do... some bits are a bit, yuk. mmmmm

**Dodgyiti** · 20th November 2009, 10:33

Blimey Ghost!
How did you miss this Guzzi thread too?
Yes I agree, some bits are cool, like header wrap on a production bike, but a fully chromed nylon tank??