gn250 Hell NO/CBD anger.

**huff3r** · 22nd November 2009, 15:54

Originally Posted by Dean

Why bother with a GN250? A proper 250 will get you prepped up for a 600.

Bullshit everyone knows, yes even a Gn250 owner, that Gn's top out at 110kph. It may look like 125kph topped out on yours but the real speed is around 110. You must seriously be a n00b If you think a gn250 can cruise at 120, let me guess in your line of thought your GN can do 180kph?

Nah, i know it cant do 180kph, but 130 is certainly possible! even more on a downhill. Perhaps any GNs you may have ridden were a little sick? Mine is quite good as a learner bike in my opinion, and definitely a step in the right direction. However i do see little point in "upgrading" to another 250 when i could get a 400 or 600 straight from the get-go.

I'm not a "n00b" at all, and i do know for a fact that it is not just "indicated speed" as if it was, then how come i dont get passed continuosly? Especially following you're line of thought that "most cars cruise at 120kph".

The main thing about a 600 that would strike me as a worrying difference is not the dynamics, or the extra power. I don't imagine that being an issue at all. The biggest thing for me would be the weight difference, and with most so-called "proper" 250s weighing around the same as a GN i see no advantage from buying one.

Besides, if i want to get my thrills i'll go racing in my car, seeing as it is quite literally a "cage"

**Dean** · 22nd November 2009, 16:04

Originally Posted by huff3r

Nah, i know it cant do 180kph, but 130 is certainly possible! even more on a downhill. Perhaps any GNs you may have ridden were a little sick? Mine is quite good as a learner bike in my opinion, and definitely a step in the right direction. However i do see little point in "upgrading" to another 250 when i could get a 400 or 600 straight from the get-go.

I'm not a "n00b" at all, and i do know for a fact that it is not just "indicated speed" as if it was, then how come i dont get passed continuosly? Especially following you're line of thought that "most cars cruise at 120kph".

The main thing about a 600 that would strike me as a worrying difference is not the dynamics, or the extra power. I don't imagine that being an issue at all. The biggest thing for me would be the weight difference, and with most so-called "proper" 250s weighing around the same as a GN i see no advantage from buying one.

Besides, if i want to get my thrills i'll go racing in my car, seeing as it is quite literally a "cage"

You say "130 is certainly possible", do you know my history? Banzai set the record for 137kph I told him I would try to beat it. I made 130kph on a straight on the GN last year, Toto was behind me as tail end charlie on the waipu ride, hiflyer was infront of me. They both passed cars on a straight heading into mangawai so I followed and ringed Like hell (nearly got head on crash with a campervan). But you wouldnt know would you? Saying I havent learnt to ride it hard because you dont know me at all!!

130 is not certainly possible, it is possible given the right chance of circumstances, petrol, weight etc.

**huff3r** · 22nd November 2009, 16:09

Originally Posted by Dean

You say "130 is certainly possible", do you know my history? Banzai set the record for 137kph I told him I would try to beat it. I made 130kph on a straight on the GN last year, Toto was behind me as tail end charlie on the waipu ride, hiflyer was infront of me. They both passed cars on a straight heading into mangawai so I followed and ringed Like hell (nearly got head on crash with a campervan). But you wouldnt know would you? Saying I havent learnt to ride it hard because you dont know me at all!!

130 is not certainly possible, it is possible given the right chance of circumstances, petrol, weight etc.

Funny that... you know nothing of my history either, yet i manage 130 fine. As i said, perhaps the bike had issues?

**Dean** · 22nd November 2009, 16:12

Originally Posted by huff3r

Funny that... you know nothing of my history either, yet i manage 130 fine. As i said, perhaps the bike had issues?

No you see you judge from what you get on the speedo, what you get on the speedo isnt correct. If you werent a n00b you would understand that. The bike didnt have issues I bought it new from colemans suzuki K road, with little K's and had a service and check before the ride. Rode on 98 octance. The speedo at the time was reading 146kph It was realistically 130kph.

I dont intend to be mean or offensive but you only have 2 freinds, this indicates you havent gone on many group rides and only have a few regular riding partners. So you are saying you arent a n00b - from your own judgement!

**Squiggles** · 22nd November 2009, 16:15

awesome deviation from thread topic.

**huff3r** · 22nd November 2009, 16:18

Originally Posted by Dean

No you see you judge from what you get on the speedo, what you get on the speedo isnt correct. If you werent a n00b you would understand that. The bike didnt have issues I bought it new from colemans suzuki K road, with little K's and had a service and check before the ride. Rode on 98 octance. The speedo at the time was reading 146kph It was realistically 130kph.

Hmmm something about having done a fairly advanced motorsport mechanics course at WINTEC would suggest something about my n00bness, yes?

I know that speedos are not entirely accurate, but i also know that mine is not out to that extent! As i have mentioned, i dont get passed by cars whilst travelling at 110, and you're saying im probabbly only going 95ish? Yet at the same time, in my car at a GPS verified 105kph i am getting passed by other cars. One would think this suggests that my speedo is still reasonably close to accurate. Of course this would depend on the current state of the chain, wether the sprockets were both the original size, and the current wear of the tire. But i digress. Point is, mines not out heaps and it hits over 130 without stress, when there is little wind.

**huff3r** · 22nd November 2009, 16:19

Originally Posted by Squiggles

awesome deviation from thread topic.

Yeah, taking a completely unrelated to bikes topic, and making it relevant to kiwibiker.

He started it!

anyway, im sick of all the bitching....
I'll just let Dean believe that the GN250 is the worstest bike on the planet, and i'm doomed to fail and languish behind all other road users simply because i ride one.
Whilst secretely ii know the truth

**bogan** · 22nd November 2009, 16:22

Originally Posted by Dean

....
Bullshit everyone knows, yes even a Gn250 owner, that Gn's top out at 110kph. ....

Originally Posted by Dean

.... Banzai set the record for 137kph I told him I would try to beat it. I made 130kph on a straight on the GN last year....

Originally Posted by Squiggles

awesome deviation from thread topic.

awesome inconsistencies too!

back onto the topic though, fuck the special ops thing are tricky, did th whole campaign no worries, then got stuck for ages on the charlie spec ops where you are in the diners with waves of people attacking, maybe the spec ops are designed for co-op?

**Dean** · 22nd November 2009, 16:23

Originally Posted by huff3r

Hmmm something about having done a fairly advanced motorsport mechanics course at WINTEC would suggest something about my n00bness, yes?

I know that speedos are not entirely accurate, but i also know that mine is not out to that extent! As i have mentioned, i dont get passed by cars whilst travelling at 110, and you're saying im probabbly only going 95ish? Yet at the same time, in my car at a GPS verified 105kph i am getting passed by other cars. One would think this suggests that my speedo is still reasonably close to accurate. Of course this would depend on the current state of the chain, wether the sprockets were both the original size, and the current wear of the tire. But i digress. Point is, mines not out heaps and it hits over 130 without stress, when there is little wind.

Theres something about knowing the mechanics and another about actually riding it good!

Have you ever thought that cars stay back away from you? Are you on your Learners with the big L plate on the back. Generally cars give you some space, if they can tell you are (besides the L plate) un confident and lacking in skill they give you space. In a car they treat you like another road user, have you ever thought you are good at driving a car but n00b with bike?

**huff3r** · 22nd November 2009, 16:28

Originally Posted by Dean

Theres something about knowing the mechanics and another about actually riding it good!

Have you ever thought that cars stay back away from you? Are you on your Learners with the big L plate on the back. Generally cars give you some space, if they can tell you are (besides the L plate) un confident and lacking in skill they give you space. In a car they treat you like another road user, have you ever thought you are good at driving a car but n00b with bike?

Ouch. That hurt. So i'm not good at riding a bike now? And you can tell me this from miles away, with never ever seeing me on a bike. Nope, i ditched the L-plate and the associated licence that goes with it 2 years ago.

And i ditched the mechanics side of things too, the only reason for that was so that i knew what was happening when i did things. We focused on a lot more than just fixing engines too, like handling and how different setups affect it. Sure that was cars, but a lot of it correlates to bikes.

For example, having a single disc brake on the front of a bike with good stoppers is likely to lead to the bike steering in that direction under heavy braking. Same as having better stoppers on one side of a car, or a bad wheel alignment.

**Dean** · 22nd November 2009, 16:35

Originally Posted by huff3r

Ouch. That hurt. So i'm not good at riding a bike now? And you can tell me this from miles away, with never ever seeing me on a bike. Nope, i ditched the L-plate and the associated licence that goes with it 2 years ago.

And i ditched the mechanics side of things too, the only reason for that was so that i knew what was happening when i did things. We focused on a lot more than just fixing engines too, like handling and how different setups affect it. Sure that was cars, but a lot of it correlates to bikes.

For example, having a single disc brake on the front of a bike with good stoppers is likely to lead to the bike steering in that direction under heavy braking. Same as having better stoppers on one side of a car, or a bad wheel alignment.

At the time of you riding the GN on the open road maybe you had a bad day where your riding wasnt great. Or maybe it was windy at the time for the car to view you un confident.

As you drive a car you know more than me that when you see a person on a 250 in a car generally you give them space you dont ride up their bums or overtake. I have, as many others do, get cars keeping distance especially when its windy.

**huff3r** · 22nd November 2009, 16:37

Originally Posted by Dean

At the time of you riding the GN on the open road maybe you had a bad day where your riding wasnt great. Or maybe it was windy at the time for the car to view you un confident.

As you drive a car you know more than me that when you see a person on a 250 in a car generally you give them space you dont ride up their bums or overtake. I have, as many others do, get cars keeping distance especially when its windy.

Huh? At the time? Every day on my 30km commute into uni? On a Dual Carriageway?

Generally as a car driver i cant really tell if a bike is a little 250 or a considerably bigger bike, i give them all room but still overtake if theyre slow.

**Dean** · 22nd November 2009, 16:44

Originally Posted by huff3r

Huh? At the time? Every day on my 30km commute into uni? On a Dual Carriageway?

Generally as a car driver i cant really tell if a bike is a little 250 or a considerably bigger bike, i give them all room but still overtake if theyre slow.

Well then sorry to say but that says you arent viewed confident on the road says the car drivers. No doudt there are times when cars follow closely behind you, and some may be pricks and tail gate you.

A 250 is easy to distinguish, granted a Hornet 250 which has a 600cc frame could be mistaken. But if its a rider with fair knowledge in the car they would know the 600cc hornets arent common in NZ usually with twin undertail pipes.

**huff3r** · 22nd November 2009, 16:49

Originally Posted by Dean

Well then sorry to say but that says you arent viewed confident on the road says the car drivers. No doudt there are times when cars follow closely behind you, and some may be pricks and tail gate you.

A 250 is easy to distinguish, granted a Hornet 250 which has a 600cc frame could be mistaken. But if its a rider with fair knowledge in the car they would know the 600cc hornets arent common in NZ usually with twin undertail pipes.

And again, you fail to convince me. Most car drivers wouldnt have a clue i'm on a 250, and they certainly dont see me as lacking confidence.. im certain of it, i do not ride in a way that suggests lack of confidence.

I am confident in my own abilities in regards to smooth consistent riding, which is enough in my opinion. Iff you appear confident, and no-one knows its an act then that works too.

I also dont find myself being tailgated whilst on the bike, but nor do i find people hanging back unnecessarily. I know i get tailgated all the time in the car, but that comes with having a "boy-racer" car.